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Re: read messages becoming unread in nnml

From: Emanuel Berg
Subject: Re: read messages becoming unread in nnml
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 23:55:44 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> Weird, I never see that. I wonder what the difference
> is. The only "weird" thing I can think of in my setup
> is that I don't use the agent.
> Can either of you reproduce the problem?

No, like I said, I can't and I haven't tried because
there are too many variables - the mail files, the
metadata files, and what you see in all the Gnus

>> I always thought that happened because the
>> .newsrc.eld file wasn't saved, so sometimes the
>> changes would vanish when you terminate Emacs.
> Do you quit Gnus before stopping Emacs?

No, I always assumed Emacs would tell Gnus to save and
terminate. Man, come to think of it, I don't even stop
Emacs, I run a shell command from Emacs (shutdown) to
shut down the whole system. Perhaps that's why!

>> I would think it best for the .newsrc.eld be saved
>> every time there is a change
> (If you want to maximize disk-I/O :-))

Yeah, but that's cool, I don't do that many things with
that many posts anyway. And computers including the
lowest-level hardware are quick these days.

>> (setq gnus-use-dribble-file nil)
> You have explicitly turned off Gnus' defence against
> crashes and unforseen events!

I know, we discussed this already. My Debian is like a
Swiss watch - and I'm not talking those knockoffs sold
by gorgeous Thai wenches here!

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