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problem with expire

From: gottlieb
Subject: problem with expire
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:03:46 -0400
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux)

I used gnus for all my mail including mailing lists (I exclusively use
mailing lists to read newsgroups).  I use nnmail-split to separate
the mail into several lists (i.e. gnus groups).

I have used gnus for years with success and enjoyment, but lately a
problem with expire has come up that I cannot understand.

(rgrep "expi" "*" "/local/allan/gottlieb/.emacs.d/" nil)
shows only two hits

   ./lisp/custom-file.el:62: '(nnmail-expiry-wait 31)
   ./lisp/custom-file.el:40: '(gnus-summary-highlight (quote (((eq mark
      gnus-expirable-mark) . shadow) ...

So I expect msgs with an E to be deleted after a 31 days.
Indeed this happens for all but one group (my main mail group) and many
messages from early feb with an E remain.

Below I show the messages from 9 feb.

It is acting as though Expire Wait is set to never in the *Gnus
Customize* buffer for this group.
But that option is not checked (see below).

Any help would be appreciated

allan gottlieb


[ ] Expire Wait: [Value Menu] never
    When to expire. More


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