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Re: Enhancements and fixes for js-encumbered websites
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W. Kosior |
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Re: Enhancements and fixes for js-encumbered websites |
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Mon, 5 Jul 2021 15:54:17 +0200 |
On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 15:54:07 -0500
Colby Russell <colby@colbyrussell.com> wrote:
> On 7/2/21 2:23 PM, W. Kosior wrote:
> > Anyway, my thought was that at some point (just not now yet) we
> > will start distributing this extension prebuilt and then the
> > availability of the build process will not be a problem.
>
> It will remain a problem for people attempting to actually exercise
> their freedoms (by e.g. modifying it, in contrast to those who
> consider the matter settled when the software is merely nominally
> free, i.e. available under a free license).
>
> > Do you think assuming POSIX in just the build system, after we
> > start distributing prebuilt versions, will still have the
> > potential to hamper the adoption?
>
> Viewed from the perspective that adoption for the software in question
> is probably a function of quality, and quality is a function of
> whether or not the contribution process is accessible to as many of
> the developers capable of imbuing the project with quality as
> possible, then yes, I think so.
>
> Most free software projects suffer from a form of tunnel vision or
> oversight when it comes to matters of the accessibility of their build
> systems. The last 35 years of the free software movement have
> furnished ample evidence that we need to be concerned with not just
> whether software is nominally free, but to push further still and
> work towards making sure that actual *practical software freedom*
> (Fredrickson, Gerwitz, et al) is an option for those who desire it.
> A good overview of this topic is available here:
>
> <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25458080>
>
> In general, though, path dependencies are something to be avoided
> where possible. For Hachette in particular, by its nature we can
> count on there being a browser involved at some point, so the POSIX
> dependency can be easily avoided. So why not avoid it?
Ok, discussion can be considered moved to:
https://hachettebugs.koszko.org/boards/1/topics/1
What Jahoti already posted there is more or less what I would respond
if I was to keep arguing (although sometimes it's perhaps better to
stop and accept someone else's idea, so as not to waste resources on
useless wars).
Wojtek
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- Enhancements and fixes for js-encumbered websites, W. Kosior, 2021/07/01
- Re: Enhancements and fixes for js-encumbered websites, John Sullivan, 2021/07/02
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- Re: Enhancements and fixes for js-encumbered websites, Colby Russell, 2021/07/02
- Re: Enhancements and fixes for js-encumbered websites, W. Kosior, 2021/07/02
- Re: Enhancements and fixes for js-encumbered websites, Colby Russell, 2021/07/02
- Re: Enhancements and fixes for js-encumbered websites,
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- Re: Enhancements and fixes for js-encumbered websites, Colby Russell, 2021/07/05
- Re: Enhancements and fixes for js-encumbered websites, W. Kosior, 2021/07/06
- Re: Enhancements and fixes for js-encumbered websites, Richard Stallman, 2021/07/06
- Re: Enhancements and fixes for js-encumbered websites, Colby Russell, 2021/07/06
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- Re: Enhancements and fixes for js-encumbered websites, Colby Russell, 2021/07/08
- Re: Enhancements and fixes for js-encumbered websites, Richard Stallman, 2021/07/12
- Re: Enhancements and fixes for js-encumbered websites, W. Kosior, 2021/07/13
- Re: Enhancements and fixes for js-encumbered websites, jahoti, 2021/07/13
- Re: Enhancements and fixes for js-encumbered websites, Richard Stallman, 2021/07/17