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Re: cap exchange race with map/unmap
From: |
Jonathan S. Shapiro |
Subject: |
Re: cap exchange race with map/unmap |
Date: |
Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:39:43 -0400 |
Marcus:
Please re-send using the more careful notation. I suspect that you
aren't getting out the revocation hierarchy that you think you are.
Whether I am right or wrong, it is better to be sure.
shap
On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 15:10 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> At Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:52:40 +0200,
> address@hidden (Ludovic Courtès) wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Marcus Brinkmann <address@hidden> writes:
> >
> > > At Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:27:56 -0400,
> > > "Jonathan S. Shapiro" <address@hidden> wrote:
> > >
> > > [A broken protocol snipped]
> > >
> > >> I believe that the only possible protocol that could be correct is for
> > >> all object servers to return by way of CapServer.
> > >
> > > I agree. This is exactly what I proposed in my talk in Dijon.
> > >
> > > The server maps a revocable copy to the cap server. The cap server
> > > maps another revocable copy to each client.
> >
> > Marcus, how is this different from what Jonathan described in
> > <address@hidden>, that is:
> >
> > In the absence of any authority to fabricate new capabilities, the
> > following chain of mappings is now in effect after the exchange:
> >
> > RevCopy RevCopy
> > A ----------> CapServer -----------> B
>
> Here, A and B are clients. Let me draw you a picture of the only
> solution I know, which also Shapiro mentioned above:
>
> Before copy operation:
>
> RevCopy RevCopy
> Server S ----------> CapServer -----------> A
>
> After A initiated the copy operation to B:
>
> RevCopy RevCopy RevCopy
> Server S ----------> CapServer -----------> A ----------> B
>
> After B initiated the copy operation from the cap server.
>
> RevCopy RevCopy RevCopy
> Server S ----------> CapServer -----------> A ----------> B
> ^ |
> | RevCopy |
> +----------------------------+
>
> The revocable copy from B to the cap server proves to the cap server
> that B possesses the capability, and furthermore allows the cap server
> to identify the capability to copy in the first place!
>
> At the end of copy operation:
>
> RevCopy RevCopy RevCopy
> Server S ----------> CapServer -----------> A ----------> B
> | ^
> | RevCopy |
> +----------------------------+
>
> The copy from B to the cap server has been removed. It's not needed
> anymore.
>
> After the copy operation:
>
> RevCopy RevCopy
> Server S ----------> CapServer -----------> A
> |
> | RevCopy
> +------------> B
>
> The copy from A to B has been removed. It is not needed anymore. Now
> A and B have a co-equal copy.
>
> Thanks,
> Marcus
>
- Re: cap exchange race with map/unmap, (continued)
- Re: cap exchange race with map/unmap, Marcus Brinkmann, 2005/10/19
- Re: cap exchange race with map/unmap, Jonathan S. Shapiro, 2005/10/19
- Re: cap exchange race with map/unmap, Neal H. Walfield, 2005/10/19
- Re: cap exchange race with map/unmap, Marcus Brinkmann, 2005/10/19
- Re: cap exchange race with map/unmap, Neal H. Walfield, 2005/10/19
- Re: cap exchange race with map/unmap, Marcus Brinkmann, 2005/10/19
- Re: cap exchange race with map/unmap,
Jonathan S. Shapiro <=
- Re: cap exchange race with map/unmap, Marcus Brinkmann, 2005/10/19
- Re: cap exchange race with map/unmap, Jonathan S. Shapiro, 2005/10/19
- Re: cap exchange race with map/unmap, Neal H. Walfield, 2005/10/19
- Re: cap exchange race with map/unmap, Jonathan S. Shapiro, 2005/10/19
- Why COPY != SIMULATED COPY, Jonathan S. Shapiro, 2005/10/19
- Re: Why COPY != SIMULATED COPY, Jonathan S. Shapiro, 2005/10/19
- Re: Why COPY != SIMULATED COPY, Marcus Brinkmann, 2005/10/19
- Re: Why COPY != SIMULATED COPY, Espen Skoglund, 2005/10/19
- Re: Why COPY != SIMULATED COPY, Espen Skoglund, 2005/10/19
- Re: Why COPY != SIMULATED COPY, Espen Skoglund, 2005/10/19