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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] On the impossibility of sharing hardware

From: Jon Phillips
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] On the impossibility of sharing hardware
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 10:51:08 +0200

Then, there is also supporting aka copyleft hardware.

If we can't share, or federate, then we should try to copyleft every
part of the hardware to drive down costs, and insure some level of
support knowing what is inside our real blackboxes.


On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Daniel Clark <> wrote:
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Patrick Anderson <>
> wrote:
>> Could we ever learn to share the hardware needed to 'regular'
>> server-based Free Software to compete with FaceBook?
>> I can't seem to find any discussion of that difficult step.
> My feeling is that there really is no way of doing this, at least in the US
> and most other jurisdictions, as if you have shared ownership, a search
> warrant is of physical necessity going to effect people other than yourself;
> so we have a harder problem than facebook does, that is creating a social
> networking system that is decentralized but federated, rather than
> centralized. But people already have some things working, e.g. /
> simple federated microblogging protocol.
> IMHO other than the software to make this work, the other big challenge is
> to create a system administration model where people running their separate
> servers never have to do sys admin type stuff if they choose not to.
>> I have some ideas about how to approach the problem, but don't know if
>> this is an appropriate forum for such a discussion?
> I don't know of a better one.
>> Even more aggressively I want to talk about how we, the users, can own
>> and control the entire physical layer to become a Free as in Freedom
>> ISP and cell-phone services, etc.
> For a while TAPR was doing some interesting stuff on Amateur Radio bands,
> but the wide and cheap availability of mobile phones seems to have killed a
> lot of that.
> Harold Welte et al are doing interesting stuff with GSM - eg
>> Anyone have any ideas or pointers to groups or lists addressing this
>> subject?
> I'm interested in the Sys Admin problem, but won't have time to work on it
> for a while (business is starting with a lower level problem, lack of widely
> available completely free hardware/software combinations). Software as a
> Service needs to be replaced by Distributed Servers, Delegatable
> Administration IMHO.
> Don't know if jgay is on the list, he tends to know the deeper org landscape
> so cc:ing him.
>> Sincerely,
>> Patrick Anderson
>> Social Sufficiency Coalition
> --
>        \|/      Daniel JB Clark | Activist; Owner
>        /|\      Free Software respecting hardware

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