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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] New GNU

From: blackbit
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] New GNU
Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 00:15:12 +0200
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I'm generally agree with your approach, but I think that the idea of
"freedom" in GNU must be totally clear to the citizen/user in every
cases. Incluging non-technical users.

Even more, as somebady said before: We have to wake up people and get
them interested into their own freedom related to libre software (and
probably with "technology")

But that's not affect the fact that you can emphasize one or other
aspects, depending on the user-type.

-- b

Al 07/05/12 23:50, En/na David Steinhafel ha escrit:
> I don't think many people would seriously consider
> "relaunching" (starting anew) The GNU Project. The responses to this
> discussion seem to indicate that many of us agree that we'd like GNU to
> be more widely known, appreciated and used. I think that should be the
> aim of this discussion: to brainstorm and organize new and hopefully
> more effective ways to introduce people to libre software.
> I agree that we'll probably be more effective if we can actually point
> the user to a free/libre replacement of the software or platform we're
> criticizing as proprietary. I also think that snazzy videos, logo
> alternatives, and a campaign for pledging to quit Facebook are great
> ideas.
> I think we would be more effective if we tailored our message for the
> audience we're intending to reach. So for technical users, we can
> explain the four freedoms, etc. 
> But for non-technical users, I'm not sure we need to even mention the
> four freedoms. I think we would be most effective by focusing on privacy
> and security concerns (i.e. there's no way to know that proprietary
> software doesn't contain "malicious" code; emphasizing that the
> GNU/linux platform and free/libre software are a *safer* way to compute
> and protect one's data).
> Does anybody else agree that we should try spreading Free Software using
> different methods depending on the audience we're trying to reach? I
> think it would be a good idea to have (at least?) two slightly different
> 2012 GNU 'campaigns', one targeting all/general computer users and
> another targeting proficient users, developers, programmers, etc.
> -- djs
> On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 22:29 +0200, Robert Martinez wrote:
>> I think you're stirring up everybody becauseyou say things like:
>> "I wanted to launch GNU anew with the focus being primarily on the goal 
>> of freedom."
>> But GNU already HAS the primary goal of freedom!
>> I believe your point is to create a label that transports the value more 
>> clearly.
>> And i must say i thought about that sometimes, too:
>> The OSI has a sticker that indicates stuff that is open source with the 
>> green cut open "O".
>> Nothing like that exists for free software.
>> But then again you should see that you don't want to "relaunch" GNU, 
>> since GNU is Not Unix, and is a big project.

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