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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] New GNU

From: Theodore Kokkoris
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] New GNU
Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 21:29:51 +0300

Nice. What about using live.linuX-gamers. I added it on the group's page. Here it is:
On May 12, 2012 10:39 PM, "Ramana Kumar" <> wrote:
> As promised, I've started a campaign page on LibrePlanet for New GNU.
> Here it is:
> I repeat my request for someone to set up a proper campaign home page.
> Everyone please visit the wiki page and make one small improvement!
> We can continue to clarify ideas on the wiki page and on this list.
> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Ramana Kumar <> wrote:
>> Thanks for mentioning Diaspora* - I actually hadn't heard of it before, and now I have requested an invite.
>> It sounds like there are two actionable threads emerging from this discussion:
>> 1. organise promotion of free social networks, especially switching away from proprietary ones together as a group of friends, and
>> 2. organise promotion of free operating systems, possibly by introducing GNU to many people who haven't seen it or didn't know they were using it
>> These activities can of course be linked, because they share the underlying message that freedom matters.
>> In the spirit of Free as in United I think these two projects should have a homepage or two so we can clarify plans and ideas and get people involved.
>> Who would like to host this? Remember the bystander effect: if you don't volunteer, maybe nobody will. So I am asking you to step up!
>> In the meantime, I commit to start a page on the LibrePlanet Wiki to collate ideas raised so far by Monday 14th. (unless someone beats me to it :P)
>> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak <> wrote:
>>> Dnia wtorek, 8 maja 2012 o 12:18:56 Patrick Anderson napisał(a):
>>> > We are fooling ourselves to believe P2P networking
>>> > such as Diaspora can solve our problems.
>>> >
>>> > It only moves a very small part of the problem.
>>> >
>>> > We, the users, must co-own the servers and the
>>> > buildings housing those servers, and the ISP connecting
>>> > us to those servers, and the factories used to create
>>> > those servers, and the power-plants used to power
>>> > those servers, and the fields used to supply the food
>>> > needed to power our bodies, and the water-rights
>>> > needed to grow that food, and the mines needed to
>>> > create all the tools needed for those operations, and
>>> > all the other parts, recursively, for all the production
>>> > needed to continuously recreate our daily needs for
>>> > all the things we need.
>>> >
>>> > To leave any of this to corporations that we do not
>>> > control is to relinquish control of the planet to those
>>> > that must subjugate us in a variety of ways to
>>> > perpetuate the scarcity required in their maniacal
>>> > quest to keep price above costs.
>>> Absolutely. But we need to start *somewhere* and moving away from
>>> proprietary social networks is a good first step - first, because it
>>> can be made "fun" (as I wrote before; secondly, as after that, even if
>>> 90% of users will be on, they will already be using a
>>> service with a protocol and decentralisation built-in. That means it
>>> will be trivial to move from server to server if need be.
>>> Instead of "moving away from Facebook and losing all my contacts"
>>> situation we will land in "I'll just change the server and notify all
>>> my contacts, just like with e-mail". Which is obviously much, much
>>> better.
>>> Other than that, pray tell, do you have a silver-bullet-conquer-them-
>>> all plan to achieve what you wrote about? If so, I'm in. If not, we
>>> need to move one step at a time.
>>> --
>>> Pozdrawiam
>>> Michał "rysiek" Woźniak
>>> Fundacja Wolnego i Otwartego Oprogramowania

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