Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Android without Google

[Thomas Harding]

Le 09/10/2012 14:01, Nicola Bignami a écrit :
> Il 09/10/2012 13:53, cryptie@nym.hush.com ha scritto:
> > In fact, he wants to do exactly what you propose : keeping the 
> > hardware, changing the OS to a free one
> > (or nearly free, cyanogenmod has some blob I think, should check)
>
> AFAIK, cyanogenmod is stripped of the Google apps but retain almost 
> all the blobs.
Yes, everyone knows of that blobs are a problem,

as everyone knows of FSF and RMS has been coped with
"non free environment" in the past.

As FSF state, kernel blobs are /evil/.

So a beginning of solution would be a device list,
preferably hosted by FSF,
enlisting what hardware does not requires kernel blobs,
and what hardware requires /some blobs/, in such case for which 
chip/functionality.

Obviously, such a list would need fine-grained hardware versions *and* 
revisions list,
because of silent changes (eg, a mainboard is launched fully Free 
Software compliant,
then revision N comes with a chip (NIC, ...) needing kernel blob or, at 
worse, a closed
driver.

Obviously, getting fully Free Software basis 3d acceleration on any non 
professional
mainboard or graphical card (OpenGL ?) would be a must-have (seems to be 
launched
soon by xxtel, no warranty).

Obviousely, getting fully FS compliant smartphones or tablets from major 
companies
(Geekphone zero is out of stock for weeks) would be nice.

Obviousely, listing hardware by usage intended for (and amount 
estimation) would
be great.

I'm aware of several sites such as tuxmobil (formely mobilix, which has 
been sued
for a stupid reason on name not far enough from Obélix).

They have not enough visibility, nor are a central point of information 
and what we
could call strong enough for *disavertising*. Also, there is no way to 
ensure an
information is relevant, up-to-date nor accurate.

Each time I buy a device or a part, I'm totally puzzled.

What I don't understand is: why FSF strongly disagree and recommends not 
to use
kernel blobs, and on the other hand does not provides any mean to get 
rid of.

It would be a good project having such a FSF portal (with information 
(in)validation) on that.

They are only twelve :)

Best regards,
TSFH