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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Trisquel-users] Final Thesis: H-node

From: Mike Linksvayer
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Trisquel-users] Final Thesis: H-node
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 13:45:54 -0700

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak
<> wrote:
> Dnia środa, 15 maja 2013 o 20:41:49 Thomas Harding napisał(a):
>> > That is too bad. Thank you for the info.
>> >
>> > I think that if their name is Creative Commons, those are the licenses
>> > they should support. If they want to support other licenses that do not
>> > belong to the commons, they should make another name for that group:
>> > perhaps Non-creative Restrictions.
> That would be too strong. They did help the libre culture movement thrive, in
> no small part thanks to their advocacy and licenses. And I have to acknowledge
> and recognize that years ago -NC and -ND were indeed needed to get the first
> artists on-board with CC.

What first artists? There existed artists releasing work under free
terms before CC existed.

There were also artists releasing work under non-free public licenses before CC.

Famous artists, not in either case. Nor since -- the few that have are
rounding errors, and haven't continued. If non-free licenses have
helped make inroads, it is beneath the level of noise.

The route to success is plainly not through famous artists though;
they and their handlers do not give a damn about public licenses,

> However, now, with CC and libre culture movement are both well known, they are
> starting to be a liability, though.

Well known by what standard? Against the backdrop of all culture, CC
is obscure and the libre culture movement is probably even moreso.

Overall the movements have way too low expectations for both freedom
and cultural relevance.


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