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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Truly decentralized/federated software develop

From: Aaron Wolf
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Truly decentralized/federated software development platforms?
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 22:44:47 -0400
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Well, Logan, for that mission, come help us make get to


On 03/20/2015 02:58 PM, Logan Streondj wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 03:35:39PM -0500, Will Hill wrote:
>> This is general problem, not a software problem, best solved by social 
>> policy.  
>> All of us have something we like to do that we wish we could earn a living 
>> from.  Perversely enough, rich and powerful people use the "feed your 
>> family" 
> didn't realize that little phrase was so politically charged.
> let me attempt to rephrase:
> "we should be able to pay libreware developers for their work".
> Big companies hire people to work on libreware,
> small companies might go through the hassle of freelancers,
> and the average person that wants to pay for something  to get done,
> is told to "code it yourself".
> The current situation clearly demonstrates there is lots of money
> available in the hands of many people to pay for development.
> However we lack the Software Infrastructure, to pay our developers
> for their work, or even to accept donations for particular issues.
> If we had the Software Infrastructure to pay our developers,
> then instead of big companies hiring their own maintainers,
> they could simply donate to the issues they want fixed.
> Then the team of developers currently working on it could get paid.
> It is most certainly a software problem. 
> It has nothing to do with governments/social-assistance or 
> basic-income or w/e. This is LibrePlanet, Not LibreAmerica!
> Libreware developers are all over the world,
> we can't ask people in Liberia to move to Sweden in order to get good
> enough benefits that they would be able to work on the project. If we
> have the infrastructure to pay a Liberian even $100/month they will be
> better off than most other full time jobs they have available.
> Crypto-currency projects regularly get millions of dollars in
> donations, for-example MaidSafe and Etherium, though they don't even
> have a working product. Wheras working products used by many people
> such as GPG/SSL and the unsung many get next to nothing. 
> Ethiopia has internet, universities, and programs for Artificial
> Intelligence, yet their GDP per capita is ~$1,400 or $117 a month.
> With a million dollars we could hire 700 Ethiopian developers,
> or over a thousand Liberian developers, full time, for a year.
> Though personally I prefer the issue wallet, 
> mechanical turk, or freelance style.
> When companies want a feature added or fixed in a Libreware project,
> their first thought should not be "lets hire a developer to do it",
> their first thought should be "lets pay the project to do it",
> just as they would for any proprietary product,
> this can only happen with the proper software infrastructure. 
> even if issues only get pennies for completion, that will be more than
> now.  
> Anyways, it seems gitchain as rysiek mentioned might be on the 
> correct track, I've joined their mailing list and they seem to have
> several similar ideas already, so I'll see if perhaps we can work
> something out there. 
> from Logan ya
>> argument to restrict us, which gives them more power and us less ability to  
>> make a living.  Society should provide the basics, food, shelter, medical 
>> care, for everyone with something like a basic income guarantee paid for by 
>> progressive taxation.  
>> On Thursday 19 March 2015, Logan Streondj wrote:
>>> well some libreware developers would like to be able to feed their
>>> families from their development
>> On Thursday 19 March 2015, rysiek wrote:
>>> While I agree there has to be an incentive to actually do the work for the
>>> proof-of-work, it doesn't have to be a payout.

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