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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] The FSF Allows No Derivatives,

From: Bryan Baldwin
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] The FSF Allows No Derivatives,
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 20:10:47 +1200
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We have enough problems with people misrepresenting other people, especially Mr. Stallman.

Which #%&*ng essay are you gagging to translate? Maybe if you offered to do it, FSF would say yes.

Cultural freedom has a massive sandbox and it can leave works of opinion the hell alone. There's way more important work to do than worry about frivolities and feckless pagentry.

On 04/26/15 19:53, Aaron Wolf wrote:
You can simply have a distinction between "endorsed" or "authorized"
translations and other translations. It's reasonable enough to require
that the translation be indicated as not an officially accepted
translation versus requiring actual permission to publish any translation.

Obviously, it is prohibitive to ask someone who is making a derivative
of a derivative of a derivative of a translation to ask permission from
each person from each stage and have permission denied at any point.

Ideas are hampered and progress is limited when we fail to respect
cultural freedom, and there are ways to address the other concerns about
mis-translation than simply the bludgeon of completely blocking anything
that lacks explicit permission.

On 04/26/2015 12:43 AM, Giuseppe Molica wrote:
I certainly did not say that -- I think someone misunderstood and
got it backwards.

The problem with translation is that if it is not done right
it has the effect of altering the point.  A license that 
permits anyone to translate a work has the effect of permitting
anyone to alter its position.

If there were a way to permit only correct, clear translation,
I would permit that -- but there is no realistic way to assure
that a translation is correct.

See for my views
about modification of non-functional works such as art and opinion.
I agree with Dr. Stallman.
Someone could misunderstand what the author was
thinking while writing, or saying, that part he's translating, and this means that in the translated copy that
misunderstanding become the author's point of view. And, IMHO, this is unacceptable.

This is not a problem with "technical" works, for example manuals, but
it is with all the opinion papers, or talkings; words are more powerful then guns, so
it's very important to use them correctly.


Giuseppe Molica



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