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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

From: Eric Schultz
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:47:03 -0500


This isn't really my topic but you've made your point (repeatedly). Respectfully, please don't fill my inbox to say the same thing over and over when people disagree and when numerous people have asked you to stop and to drop them from discussions.


On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic <> wrote:
On 26.08.2016 21:48, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) wrote:
> It seems the problem is the meaning of “libre” in terms of unreleased
> hardware/software. EOMA68 certainly is aligned with libre culture and
> significant for freedom because of its modularity standard. It also is
> GPL-compliant like any unreleased product, but this does not mean much.

You're mixing so many concepts here.

> I believe the claim that it is “free from the very beginning” is
> imprecise but not deceptive

I disagree, since that claim has made people believe it's already libre
hardware (as news articles prove). Which is not. The exception is
actually the computer itself.

> and *not a problem* if all available sources
> will eventually be released.

Well, if it's not true that said hardware is libre hardware now (or
since "the very beginning" until now) and we consider it "not a problem"
if at some unspecified point in time it's going to be libre hardware,
than we are justifying the practice of falsely marketing hardware as
free-design hardware. And the same logic ("not a problem") can apply to
GPL-violaters who at some point in time they comply with GPL.

> A clear promise to release what is missing would seem fair though.

A clear deadline for the release is what's needed. Previously I have
compiled a list of demands for this crowdfunded project backed by the users:

Copying them here:

Here is what I think backers should do:

1. Demand a clear deadline for the release of the circuit design sources
under a free license.

2. Demand to stop promoting their Computer as "libre hardware" until
they release the circuit design sources under a free license.

3. Demand the Computer is shipped to them along with the circuit design
sources under a free license, even though the shipping is done before
the official deadline.

4. Demand the above conditions are met for further backing the
crowdfunding campaign.

Eric Schultz, Developer and FLOSS Advocate

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