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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] helping newcomers start blogs - but where?

From: J.B. Nicholson
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] helping newcomers start blogs - but where?
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 20:02:39 -0500
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John Rooke wrote:
Anyone who visited the Daily Stormer prior to its takedown knows that
there is plenty of evidence to vindicate Cloudflare's decision.

None of which you name, point to, nor do you address the issue of this being extrajudicial which is the chief problem here. This merely confirms the danger in hosting with someone else no matter how righteous their statements appear to be or how much they turn on those statements when emotions run high.

As for Chomsky, he may not have "kicked anyone off the internet", but he
has to my certain knowledge, used his power to silence critics.

The problem here is one of attacking character as a means of distracting from the underlying point (an issue I should have made more clear in my initial response): even if Chomsky had "kicked someone off the Internet" as CloudFlare's CEO says he did, that wouldn't render what Chomsky says about freedom of speech to be wrong. It's arguing by proxy to point out that Chomsky doesn't follow his own line, essentially saying that Chomsky may be hypocritical and hoping that the hypocrisy will magically transfer into undermining the support for freedom of speech even in the light of objectionable messages.

People try this approach with software freedom too -- when they can't make a good counterargument for software freedom they argue against a noteworthy free software activist, such as Richard Stallman, by pointing to a recording where he says something untoward, or one can see him doing something one typically doesn't see public presenters do. This doesn't read on the underlying argument being made, it's a distraction and attempt to graft whatever unpleasantness one finds in the speaker's behavior to the idea, thus obviating the need for any discussion of the idea on its own merits.

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