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Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site


From: Dennis Payne
Subject: Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site
Date: Fri, 07 May 2021 17:39:25 -0400
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Connecting at a lower level would probably give worse results. For
Gnome software for example, I don't believe they write text using the X
Windows functions. Instead they handle that themselves and send the
image result to X. Additionally X Windows is generally on the way out
with Wayland being the new thing.

On Thu, 2021-05-06 at 21:57 -0400, Arthur Torrey wrote:
> Jean Louis pointed at Vinux - which I had found and looked to me like
> a near-dead project - The home page is non-https, and is skeletal at
> best...  The Wiki is talking about the 'latest version' as of 2015,
> and while it says the last update was in 2019, the download site
> doesn't connect (Firefox times out w/ can't find site error) and
> there have only been about 2 changes to the wiki since it was created
> in 2013 according to it's history page...
> 
> I found a few other low vision projects and they seemed similarly
> moribund.  I asked on another site and the response I got was either
> similar pointers to seemingly dead projects, or that because most of
> the mainstream distros now have some level of accessibility built in,
> the low-vision / blind specific projects have mostly died.
> 
> As a non-programmer, who has listened to a few presentations at
> Libre-Planet and read articles here and there I can't contribute any
> code, but as a 'partly baked idea' my thought about how it might be
> possible to do a better job on accessibility might be to try and tap
> into the system at a much earlier level....
> 
> What would happen if instead of trying to put accessibility in at the
> window manager (KDE / Gnome / etc.) level, there was instead an X-
> Windows driver that provided input to a screen-reader as a "display
> type"?  How about having an "accessible keyboard" option (probably as
> an intermediate layer between the usual keyboard choices and the rest
> of the system as that would make it easy to use any desired key-
> mapping underneath it?)
> 
> It seems to me that the closer the accessibility options are to the
> "bare metal hardware" the less they would be relying on window
> managers / programs to do the "right thing", and the more universally
> consistent they would be.
> 
> Possibly less universal, but still coming in at a fairly low level,
> what if there was an "accessible" option for choosing the
> internationalization when setting up?
> 
> As I said this may be something that wouldn't work for reasons that
> are above my pay-grade to understand, but perhaps might just be
> something that hadn't been considered.
> 
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