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Subject: [Lilypond-auto] [LilyIssues-auto] [testlilyissues:issues] Re: #3692 Fingering collision with accidentals
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 14:48:23 -0000

I haven't found a single example in Learning Manual, Notation Manual, where chord fingerings outside the chord.

This sounds like a documentation-issue: if we provide a functionality we should document it ofcourse.

Besides, fingeringOrientations will only work for fingerings within <>.

It's a feature having those two engravers, see:

  <c'-4 e'-3>1-1-2
  %% in-chord-fingering is not affected
  \once \override Fingering.direction = #DOWN
  <c'-4 e'-3>-1-2
  %% general chord fingering is not affected
  \set fingeringOrientations = #'(left)
  <c'-4 e'-3>1-1-2

Otoh, sometimes it fails like a pain in the neck having two engravers for fingerings.
Furthermore one of them is for other stuff as well...
a real mess.

Though, as said before, I'd love to get the possibility to have StrokeFingers attached to a whole chord working as well.
P.e., look at
There the defined strokes have to be placed inside of the chord. It would be much cleaner, if they could be attached to the chord.
Ofcourse, this is a different issue.

[issues:#3692] Fingering collision with accidentals

Status: Started
Created: Sat Nov 30, 2013 09:17 AM UTC by Anonymous
Last Updated: Fri Aug 03, 2018 02:32 PM UTC
Owner: Torsten Hämmerle

Originally created by: *anonymous

Originally created by: address@hidden

Fingerings do not take accidentals into account, and fingerings align over the first note inout of a chord, rather than centering over the whole chord.
\version "2.17.96"

  <e'' f'' cis'''>1 ^1^2^5

From Keith Ohara:
"Unfortunately this is a different bug -- or two -- so it will
not be fixed at the same time as collisions between Fingerings.

(1) LilyPond has never looked at Accidentals when placing Fingering;
until recently that caused only small overlaps with sharps because
the Fingering did not previously fit so close to the chord.

(2) Fingering on a chord as a whole should center over the main column
of note-heads; instead it centers over the first-input note.

So, you can do the same as we did when using version 2.12: rearrange
the order of pitches in the chord so a main-column note comes first.

{ <f'' e'' cis'''>1 ^1^2^5 }

From Janek :

This is similar to issues

and i believe to solve it in a general way we would have to teach
lilypond about different kinds of extents - see: (sorry, that
issue got pretty messy).

Currently the work i started on this is waiting until 2.18.0 is out...
What about leaving it for now and attacking this together after 2.18?
Possibly a Known Issue in NR 1.7.1 would be in order.

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