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Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block
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Trevor Bača |
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Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block |
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Wed, 7 Feb 2007 14:37:17 -0600 |
On 2/7/07, Kress, Stephen <address@hidden> wrote:
I think Han-Wen said it himself (though he didn't realize it).
I like the idea if \paper being as you described (with just the six
properties).
Me too. I think that greatly clears up what belongs in the \paper
block -- just stuff that has to do with the physical dimensions and
printable area of actual paper.
Put all the other stuff (the outside-the-score layout stuff) in a new block
called \page-layout
Maybe, if folks get too confused between \page-layout and \layout, the
\layout block can be moved inside the \score block since that's what it
applies to the most. It might also be that a \layout block that is outside
a \score block (for the purposes of a "global" style) could be renamed to
\score-layout.
So what do think about dividing the outside-of-score stuff into two
categories? Because it seems like maybe these two lists of settings do
different things:
list 1:
ragged-bottom
ragged-last-bottom
system-count
between-system-space
between-system-padding
horizontal-shift
blank-page-force
blank-last-page-force
page-spacing-weight
list 2:
first-page-number
print-first-page-number
print-page-number
auto-first-page-number
head-separation
foot-separation
print-all-headers (iso printallheaders)
after-title-space
before-title-space
between-title-space
Right now both list 1 and list 2 will just be put together into the
outside-of-score (\paper) bucket.
But it seems that may list 1 is really concerned with the *the layout
of music on the page* whereas list 2 is concerned with *adding headers
and footers outside the music*.
So does it make sense to divide list 1 and list 2? And if so, with what names?
Just some q&d thoughts...
Stephen
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on behalf of Trevor Baca
Sent: Wed 2/7/2007 12:47 PM
To: Han-Wen Nienhuys
Cc: lilypond-devel; lilypond-user
Subject: Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block
On 2/7/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys <address@hidden> wrote:
> Trevor Baca escreveu:
> > On 2/7/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys <address@hidden> wrote:
> >> Trevor Baca escreveu:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I wouldn't ask except for the fact that I've now been laying out
score
> >> > very successfully with lily for going on two years and I still have
to
> >> > stop and ask myself "Hmm ... I'm wanting to pad systems on the page
so
> >> > that they lay out more loosely. So that concerns layout and I'll
look
> >> > for settings over here in the \layout block. Oh wait. Settings for
> >> > system layout live in the \paper block ..."
> >>
> >> the \layout block only affects what's in a score. Page layout
(margins,
> >> titles, etc) fall outside that and therefore are in the \paper block.
> >> Perhaps better names can be found for paper/layout; suggestions
> >> appreciated.
> >
> > Hmmm.
> >
> > Just thinking out loud here ... so there's an inside-of-score /
> > outside-of-score dichotomy going on here. I don't think I had ever
> > realized that ...
> >
> > So that means that ragged-right (which currently lives in \layout) is
> > perceived as inside-of-score, whereas ragged-bottom (which currently
> > lives in \paper) is outside-of-score?
>
> yes. However, \layout settings default to what is in the \paper block,
> so ragged-right may also be defined in the \paper{} block.
OK.
Hm. So ragged-right can live in the *\layout* block (and have
score-level scope). Or ragged-right can live in the *\paper* block
(and have file-level scope).
Would it make more sense to have the idea that ragged-right only ever
live in a \layout block, together with the companion idea that there
can be both score-level \layout blocks and also one file-level \layout
block?
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- Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block, Trevor Bača, 2007/02/07
- Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block, Han-Wen Nienhuys, 2007/02/07
- Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block, Trevor Bača, 2007/02/07
- Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block, Han-Wen Nienhuys, 2007/02/07
- Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block, Trevor Bača, 2007/02/07
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- Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block, Bryan Stanbridge, 2007/02/07
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- Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block, Trevor Bača, 2007/02/07
- Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block, Cameron Horsburgh, 2007/02/07
- Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block, Trevor Bača, 2007/02/07
- Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block, Mats Bengtsson, 2007/02/08
- Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block, Mats Bengtsson, 2007/02/08
- Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block, Han-Wen Nienhuys, 2007/02/08