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Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)
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demery |
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Re: Concert Pitch (a second try) |
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Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:03:08 -0000 |
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009, Peter Chubb <address@hidden> said:
> Here's my rough try at the three entries:
kudos Mr Chubb, trust the son of a son of a scoundrel...
I like em all, but as usual, i do have a couple of quibbles.
> Notes like a, b, c etc., describe a relationship between themselves,
> not an absolute pitch. The nature of the relationship is the
> so-called temperament (q.v.).
is the above needed at all?
> To be in tune, a group instruments must agree
> on the relationship between pitches *and* the absolute pitch of one of
> the notes. In recent times that pitch, `concert pitch' has been
> defined as 440Hz for the A above middle C, with other notes arranged
> according to the temperament being used.
'arranged' strikes me as a little off somehow, maybe my confirmed inner
batchelor is shivering in fear; perhaps 'disposed', 'tuned' or 'pitched'?
we know when and by what body; might as well cite it. 1975, ISO 16, an
international standard. Could mention that equal temperament is the
common understanding. It doesnt affect the notation, only the tuning.
> Temperament: the relationship between different pitches in a scale.
> In the simplest case, an *equal-tempered* system has notes whose
> frequencies are in the ratio of the twelfth root of two. Such a
> system always sounds out-of-tune, because thirds, fourths and fifths
> are not exact ratios. However it is widely used because all notes are
> equally spaced, regardless of the starting note of a scale.
Not sure equal temp is the simplest case, common yes. I would think
natural to be the simplest case, and let the a-capella group drift as it
will while following it. This is a toughie to do full justice to briefly,
and the details are OT for our context (notation). Maybe expand a tad by
nameing some of the scheme.
> Transposing Instrument: If an instrument is usually notated at a
> pitch other than its sounding pitch (whether out of tradition, or for
> the convenience of the player) it is said to be a *transposing
> instrument.* Bes and A Clarinets, many brass instruments, and some saxophones
> are transposing instruments.
Usually it the music which is notated? some brass instruments are
engraved about the bell, but still :-).
perhaps this -
An instrument whose music is written transposed from its sounding pitch
..
--
Dana Emery
- Re: Concert Pitch (a second try), (continued)
- Re: Concert Pitch (a second try), Carl D. Sorensen, 2009/04/06
- Re: Concert Pitch (a second try), Graham Percival, 2009/04/06
- Re: Concert Pitch (a second try), Peter Chubb, 2009/04/07
- Re: Concert Pitch (a second try), Trevor Daniels, 2009/04/07
- Re: Concert Pitch (a second try), Hans Aberg, 2009/04/07
- Re: Concert Pitch (a second try), demery, 2009/04/07
- Re: Concert Pitch (a second try), Hans Aberg, 2009/04/07
- Re: Concert Pitch (a second try), Anthony W. Youngman, 2009/04/07
- Re: Concert Pitch (a second try),
demery <=
- Re: Concert Pitch (a second try), Ian Hulin, 2009/04/07
- Re: Concert Pitch (a second try), Anthony W. Youngman, 2009/04/07
- Re: Concert Pitch (a second try), demery, 2009/04/07