Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

[Mike Solomon]

On Aug 29, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Graham Percival wrote:

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 09:15:54AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:

Graham Percival wrote Monday, August 29, 2011 8:53 AM

Moral of the story?  pay more attention to patch countdowns, I

I've given up looking at code-change patch count-downs.

...

If you force patches through at the present rate

they're not going to be carefully reviewed.

I'm open to suggestions.  The development team is producing
approximately 20 patches (including drafts) per week.  We could
always tell some programmers to bugger off, but that seems highly
counter-productive.  :)

I'm also against this.  I do not have time during the school year to do as much development as I'd like (I think several of us are in this situation).  I try to review as much as possible in my areas of expertise, but I agree that review cannot happen as fast as development is currently happening.  However, I believe that everyone on the current development team is willing to take responsibility for their work and, if it does result in bugs, to spend the time necessary to eliminate them as fast as possible.  Obviously, the faster a process moves, the more prone it is to error.  I would rather, however, see LilyPond develop at its current pace and put confidence in its developers to take responsibility for their actions then slow down development.

Another idea would be to try forcing people to review patches.  I
don't see that going well, either.

I also agree that this is bad.  On this subject (though not directly related), I will say that when people have solicited me individually for review, I have always done it.  Similarly, whenever I have asked for certain individual's feedback, I have always gotten it.  It would be great to have a culture of informal requests this to get extra revisions on Rietveld - we all more or less know who does what well, and part of the confidence I talk about in the paragraph above is the confidence to be able to evaluate one's own abilities in a domain and to seek help when necessary.

Cheers,

MS