Re: Markup module patch (Issue 2026)

[Ian Hulin]

Hi Werner,
On 19/12/11 05:47, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> 
>>> So either I interpret something wrong into what you are saying, or
>>> you interpret something wrong into what the Guile developers are
>>> saying, or the Guile developers interpret something wrong into what
>>> usability should be saying.  Or a bit of each.
>>
>> *Shrug*.  It's very easy to get things confused with two different
>> projects (Guile and LilyPond) developing at different speeds and
>> with fundamental deep-level changes going on in each (like
>> byte-compilation in Guile and your spring-clean on the parser stuff,
>> also I only get chance to work on Lily in bursts, and I'm not able
>> to swap between development with the two Guile versions as easily as
>> I'd like.
> 
> I strongly suggest that we try to directly involve Andy `Mr. Guile'
> Wingo.  IIRC, he was already helpful in resolving previous problems,
> and he as the main developer of Guile could give helpful insights to
> find a satisfying solution.
> 
> Ian, can you do that, with CCing the lilypond-devel list?  (And the
> lilypond-devel list maintainer, please have an eye to the queue so
> that his mails get forwarded quickly).
> 
I'm already on it, sort of.  If it looks like something is definitely on
the Guile/Scheme side of the fence, I do contact Andy and Ludovic, and
normally then put a post on guile-user and/or guile-bugs.

For example, there is a lot of discussion on guile-developers on how to
support a feature which has been deprecated (local-eval), and it turns
out it was useful to David K in his parser spring-clean, so I flagged it
with Guile and it's now in their bug-tracking system. It looks like
they're going to provide us with a solution, but the discussion on the
thread is way over my head. . .

My current woes with the markup facility are mainly on the LilyPond
side, and how it's currently implemented, and how to get from "here"
(Guile V1.8) to "there" (Guile V2.0). I don't think we need to involve
the Guile guys on this bit yet.

Anyhow, thanks for the reminder, Werner,

Cheers,

Ian