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Re: Doc: NR added @knownissue for beam properties (issue 5504100)


From: pkx166h
Subject: Re: Doc: NR added @knownissue for beam properties (issue 5504100)
Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:33:33 +0000

See comments below, thanks.


http://codereview.appspot.com/5504100/diff/1/Documentation/notation/rhythms.itely
File Documentation/notation/rhythms.itely (right):

http://codereview.appspot.com/5504100/diff/1/Documentation/notation/rhythms.itely#newcode1953
Documentation/notation/rhythms.itely:1953: @knownissues
On 2012/01/01 01:55:11, Carl wrote:
I wonder if it would be better to actually include a snippet, instead
of just a
known issue.

See comment below

http://codereview.appspot.com/5504100/diff/1/Documentation/notation/rhythms.itely#newcode1954
Documentation/notation/rhythms.itely:1954: The properties of a beam are
determined at the @emph{start} of its
On 2012/01/01 02:59:06, Keith wrote:
I had no idea what this was about until going back to the tracker
issue.  The
surprising bit is with automatic beams, because you don't see where
they start,
so we need an example.  You might just say :
"If you change properties of beam when a beam has already started,
that beam
will not be affected.  For example, with the input {\hideNotes c8 f8
\unHideNotes c8 f8} the \hideNotes makes transparent the single
automatic beam
across all four notes.  If you want the beam to be visible for the
last two
notes you need to specify it explicitly. {\hideNotes c8 f8
\unHideNotes c8[ f8]}
"
This one is more a warning than a knownissue.

Happy with @warning vs @knownissues

http://codereview.appspot.com/5504100/diff/1/Documentation/notation/rhythms.itely#newcode1954
Documentation/notation/rhythms.itely:1954: The properties of a beam are
determined at the @emph{start} of its
On 2012/01/01 03:08:19, Carl wrote:
On 2012/01/01 02:59:06, Keith wrote:
> I had no idea what this was about until going back to the tracker
issue.  The
> surprising bit is with automatic beams, because you don't see where
they
start,
> so we need an example.  You might just say :
> "If you change properties of beam when a beam has already started,
that beam
> will not be affected.  For example, with the input {\hideNotes c8 f8
> \unHideNotes c8 f8} the \hideNotes makes transparent the single
automatic beam
> across all four notes.  If you want the beam to be visible for the
last two
> notes you need to specify it explicitly. {\hideNotes c8 f8
\unHideNotes c8[
f8]}

This is why I recommend a snippet, rather than just the text.  If we
need to
show a LilyPond example, we should show it with the output, rather
than just
describing it in the text.

I disagree.

The example in the tracker is overly complicated for what (I still
maintain) is easily explained. However *if* we really do need an example
then the \hideNotes one is not ideal. I struggled myself with that one
in the tracker, it isn't a 'tiny example' by any stretch of the
imagination and I knew perfectly well what was meant by the problem only
*after* I read the text explanation, the picture on the tracker added
nothing for me.

http://codereview.appspot.com/5504100/diff/1/Documentation/notation/rhythms.itely#newcode1956
Documentation/notation/rhythms.itely:1956: the beam has been completed
will not take effect until the @emph{next},
On 2012/01/01 01:55:11, Carl wrote:
I think it would be better to eliminate the , and the word "new", but
I don't
feel really strongly about it.

No problem with that.

http://codereview.appspot.com/5504100/



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