Re: Caches the interior skylines of vertical axis groups and systems.(issue 7185044)

[Trevor Daniels]

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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:22 PM
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>On 19 févr. 2013, at 16:11, Trevor Daniels <address@hidden> wrote:
>> 
>> From: <address@hidden>
>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:32 PM
>> 
>>> On 18 févr. 2013, at 20:07, address@hidden wrote:
>>> 
>>>> You can't just throw functionality overboard when you are "improving"
>>>> things and tell people they have to revert to the old code if they
>>>> care about that functionality.  After all, it is totally unclear how
>>>> elements with the old callbacks and elements with the new
>>>> outside-staff-priority ignoring callbacks will even combine.
>>> 
>>> It is true that this breaks old functionality for user overrides.
>>> 
>>> The goal is certainly not to mask things.  I will make sure to put this in 
>>> the change log and will write a not-smart convert-ly rule in my next patch 
>>> set.
>> 
>> That's not good enough.  The present overrides of outside-staff-priority
>> figure quite extensively in the user documentation.  This will all need to be
>> re-written as part of an acceptable patch to show users how to rearrange
>> the order in which outside-staff objects are placed.
>> 
> Thanks for giving me input from a documentation point of view.  When 
> writing the patch, this was one of the fundamental things I took into
> account.  All of the examples in the notation reference, learning manual and 
> snippets show no change with this patch applied.

OK, Mike, this is reassuring.  Seems like I read too much into
"It is true that this breaks old functionality for user overrides."

> The main thing this patch effects are esoteric grobs that normally don't get 
> outside-staff-priority, like MultiMeasureRest, NoteHeads and Rests.

One of these that is commonly given an outside-staff-priority is Slur.  This
is used as an example in the LM.

> In light of this, what type of additions to the NR do you feel would be 
> necessary 
> to indicate the new behavior?

Probably nothing the the NR (although I haven't read it carefully to check)
but have a look at this section in the LM, particularly the bit on Slurs, to 
see if
the text, as well as the examples, would remain correct.

http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/learning/outside_002dstaff-objects#the-outside_002dstaff_002dpriority-property

Trevor