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Re: Doc: Remove space before the tie symbol (3133) (issue 8758047)


From: tdanielsmusic
Subject: Re: Doc: Remove space before the tie symbol (3133) (issue 8758047)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 22:34:06 +0000

Reviewers: janek, Graham Percival, dak, Jean-Charles,

Message:
On 2013/04/25 16:43:36, Jean-Charles wrote:
On 2013/04/25 15:20:07, dak wrote:
> On 2013/04/25 15:10:35, Graham Percival wrote:
> > I'm not wild about having ties without a space in front of them,
but I can't
> > think of any rational reason for my reaction, so I guess LGTM.
>
> Oh, there is a perfectly rational reason: ties are placed
symmetrically
between
> notes, so placing them symmetrically in the source code reflects
this
symmetry.
>
> However, the implementation and the resulting behavior does _not_
have a
similar
> symmetry.  Which is not really all that new: we don't have
comparable input
> symmetry with slurs either (though it would be interesting to try).

Might be because of "one bar per line":

a4 a a b~
b4 c c c

?
Otherwise, LGTM
Jean-Charles

That looks better without a space, certainly,
but the main reason for this change was to try to
avoid leading users into expecting \music ~ f
to work by moving the examples closer to the
implementation - which is that the tie is actually
a starting spanner on the preceding note.

Anyway, pushed to staging as
c78d6ec6a281a0eb6ae042b811bf72ba5b1b618d
Closing ...

Description:
Doc: Remove space before the tie symbol (3133)

  This patch changes only the main tie section in the NR.

  It also tightens the description and corrects a couple of
  minor errors.

Please review this at https://codereview.appspot.com/8758047/

Affected files:
  M Documentation/notation/rhythms.itely


Index: Documentation/notation/rhythms.itely
diff --git a/Documentation/notation/rhythms.itely b/Documentation/notation/rhythms.itely index cc69b76764a820681c9c64d48621526d197d949b..75b83c29f0ed515c54d7503ddd3c6c3dcc4c1833 100644
--- a/Documentation/notation/rhythms.itely
+++ b/Documentation/notation/rhythms.itely
@@ -417,10 +417,12 @@ indicate articulation, or @emph{phrasing slurs}, which indicate
 musical phrasing.  A tie is just a way of extending a note
 duration, similar to the augmentation dot.}

-A tie is entered using the tilde symbol (@code{~}).
+A tie is entered by appending a tilde symbol (@code{~}) to the first
+of each pair of notes being tied.  This indicates that the note
+should be tied to the following note, which must be at the same pitch.

 @lilypond[quote,verbatim,relative=2]
-a2 ~ a
+a2~ a4~ a16 r r8
 @end lilypond

 Ties are used either when the note crosses a bar line, or when
@@ -429,8 +431,8 @@ used when note values cross larger subdivisions of the measure:

 @lilypond[verbatim,quote]
 \relative c' {
-  r8 c8 ~ c2 r4 |
-  r8^"not" c2 ~ c8 r4
+  r8 c~ c2 r4 |
+  r8^"not" c2~ c8 r4
 }
 @end lilypond

@@ -444,11 +446,11 @@ ties them across bar lines.

 When a tie is applied to a chord, all note heads whose pitches
 match are connected.  When no note heads match, no ties will be
-created.  Chords may be partially tied by placing the tie inside
+created.  Chords may be partially tied by placing the ties inside
 the chord.

 @lilypond[quote,verbatim,relative=1]
-<c e g> ~ <c e g>
+<c e g>~ <c e g c>
 <c~ e g~ b> <c e g b>
 @end lilypond

@@ -464,7 +466,7 @@ When a second alternative of a repeat starts with a tied note, you
 have to specify the repeated tie as follows:

 @lilypond[quote,relative=2,verbatim]
-\repeat volta 2 { c g <c e>2 ~ }
+\repeat volta 2 { c g <c e>2~ }
 \alternative {
   % First alternative: following note is tied normally
   { <c e>2. r4 }
@@ -496,7 +498,7 @@ be entered as follows:
 @funindex \tieNeutral
 @funindex tieNeutral

-Ties may be manually placed above or below the staff; see
+Ties may be made to curve up or down manually; see
 @ref{Direction and placement}.

 @cindex ties, appearance
@@ -517,26 +519,26 @@ dashed.

 @lilypond[quote, verbatim, relative=1]
 \tieDotted
-c2 ~ c
+c2~ c
 \tieDashed
-c2 ~ c
+c2~ c
 \tieHalfDashed
-c2 ~ c
+c2~ c
 \tieHalfSolid
-c2 ~ c
+c2~ c
 \tieSolid
-c2 ~ c
+c2~ c
 @end lilypond

 Custom dash patterns can be specified:

 @lilypond[quote, verbatim, relative=1]
 \tieDashPattern #0.3 #0.75
-c2 ~ c
+c2~ c
 \tieDashPattern #0.7 #1.5
-c2 ~ c
+c2~ c
 \tieSolid
-c2 ~ c
+c2~ c
 @end lilypond

 Dash pattern definitions for ties have the same structure as dash





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