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Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub


From: Phil Holmes
Subject: Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:58:11 +0100

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Rushton Wakeling" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub


On 24/09/13 15:45, David Kastrup wrote:
"you" is you.  So start fixing it.  You know better than everybody else
what is in need of fixing, so go ahead.

Every time I raise usability issues related to the contribution tools, I run into this big wall of denial that there is actually a problem. And rather than recognizing this as a concern of someone who wants to contribute, you throw it back at me as somehow a sign of inadequate commitment, that I complain without solving the problem.

I freely admit that I don't have all the technical skills needed to provide a solution to this problem. But I _do_ know what user experience I have contributing to other projects, and it is very, very different to what I have when trying to contribute to Lilypond. I don't think that it is wrong (or unhelpful) of me to point out that difference.

The thing is, even if I _did_ have all the technical skills required, or if I invested time and effort to learn them, do I have any guarantee that my work would be rewarded with acceptance of my solution? The hostile reception to my saying, "Here are a set of usability problems" doesn't exactly encourage my hope that a solution would be welcomed.


If you were able to develop a more usable set of tools that is a) compatible with our code base and development environment b) does not require a large developer investment to adopt and c) provides the same functionality as we currently have (e.g. review, test), I would be more than happy to press for its adoption. The reason that you're getting a less than enthusiastic reception is that it would seem unlikely that anyone would want to devote that amount of time. But if you were to do it, sure, I'm convinced we'd do our best to take it on.

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Phil Holmes



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