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Re: Non-numeric time signatures

From: Joram
Subject: Re: Non-numeric time signatures
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:59:25 +0100
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Am 26.10.2014 um 01:43 schrieb Dan Eble:
On Oct 25, 2014, at 17:59 , Simon Albrecht <address@hidden> wrote:

I think the double c and double cut c symbols are very much non-standard, 
unlike single cut c for 4/2, which I consider to be in use very widely. With 
this difference in frequency of use I don’t find your suggestion convincing.

My suggestion was not based on frequency of use (because I am ignorant of that) 
but on my impression that it would be nicer to have a default that doesn’t use 
the same symbol for different time signatures.

default: (currently called #'C – perhaps rename to #'symbolic? That would be 
more descriptive)
4/4 -> c
2/2 -> cut c
4/2 -> (single) cut c

“Symbolic” is too generic.  It could be applied to more than one style, 
otherwise we wouldn’t be having this discussion. :)

How might an additional option for double c/cut c time signatures be called? 
Perhaps #'romantic or #'double or #’varsymbol?

I like your proposition, Simon. I think there should be 'default 'numeric and another (at least one) - perhaps called 'symbolic. Lilypond already has several styles for note heads (default, altdefault, etc.) which only change the style of breve and longa notes. So I think it is not exaggerated to have several possibilities here.
For the 'default, I would prefer the current 4/2 as numeric.

Simon, you gave already nice explanation why the ¢ is also used for 4/2 and I think this knowledge should be used when defining appropriate styles according to traditional usage of those symbols.

So I am for your suggestion, Simon.

Another thing:

Independent of these styles, I wonder if it would be possible and desirable to extend the \time command to allow to specify both the symbol and the timing information:

\time symbol timing (or the other way round)

\time 4/4 would by default mean \time "C" 4/4
\time 3/4 means \time "3/4" 3/4
\time "C|" 4/2 would mean the symbol is ¢ and the timing 4/2

I don't know it that works with the optional arguments. But it is similar to the \tempo command with
\tempo Allegro 4=100
That would be easy for my question some days ago.


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