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Re: Clarify notation for slurs and beams (issue 343060043 by address@hid

From: Carl . D . Sorensen
Subject: Re: Clarify notation for slurs and beams (issue 343060043 by address@hidden)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 15:19:12 -0700


Thanks for the input.  I'm not sure I agree with you on all this, but
I'm certainly open to being convinced.  I've got specific replies to
your inline comments.
File Documentation/learning/fundamental.itely (right):
Documentation/learning/fundamental.itely:465: optionally followed by one
or more post-events.  Post-events add
On 2018/04/30 21:49:37, thomasmorley651 wrote:
I'd completely delete 'post-event'.
 From a musical thinking it makes no sense. An articulation is not
_after_ the note.
To explain it programmatical, this is not the right place, imho.

Why not simply:

"A note entry in LilyPond consists of a pitch, followed by a duration,
optionally followed by things such as articulations, fingerings,
string numbers,
slurs, ties, explanatory text, etc."

We could do this.  But ultimately all the things that attach to notes
like this are called post-events in the internals reference.  So I don't
think it's a bad idea to introduce the LilyPond term here, just like we
do for pitch and duration.  All three terms (pitch, duration,
post-event) are LilyPond terms, not musical terms.

We aren't explaining music in this section.  We are explaining LilyPond
Documentation/learning/fundamental.itely:481: Post-events follow the
note to which they are attached.  Suppose we
On 2018/04/30 21:49:37, thomasmorley651 wrote:

Here as well.

Also, I think it's important to drop a sentence about the "-"-signs,
actually attach those optional elements to the note.

So my suggestion:

"Optional elements are added at the end of the initial
Probably using a "-"-sign, which can be omitted, if no ambiguity
Suppose we ..."

I don't think I agree that things are attached with "-" signs.  For
example, \staccato, \mordent, \turn, \fermata, \prall, (, [. None of
these are attached with "-" signs, although they can have a direction
indicator (-, _ , ^) preceding them if desired.  At least, that is what
the N.R. 5.4.2 says.

If we want to talk about direction indicators here, I think we can give
a brief introduction.  If not, I think we should leave them out
completely.  In the LM and the NR, the direction indicators are always
included when we add the post-events, if they are needed.
Documentation/learning/fundamental.itely:488: {c'8-1--(~^\markup{"text
annotation"} c' d')}
On 2018/04/30 21:49:37, thomasmorley651 wrote:

For the sake of simplicity I'd not use direction-modifiers and enter
the text
without explicit \markup, i.e.:
{c'8-1--(~-"text annotation" c' d')}

I think it's actually nicer not to have so many "-" characters; they
make it confusing, in my opinion.

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