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Re: packaging lilypond as a docker container?
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Karlin High |
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Re: packaging lilypond as a docker container? |
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Wed, 22 Jan 2020 08:53:11 -0600 |
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On 1/22/2020 4:36 AM, David Kastrup wrote:
I have no experience with Docker and containers.
The one time I tried Docker on Windows, I was put off by the setup
effort that seemed intended to initiate the user into an entire
worldview and ecosystem. Docker seemingly didn't provide an easy way to
download their software without creating an account at their place
first. That's behavior I expect from Google, Apple, and Microsoft, not
an open-source project. After some digging, I think there was a direct
download link somewhere, given in a forum post. But then after the
install, Docker seemed pretty non-functional until I logged into my
local software with a Docker account.
Okay, okay... I sort-of get why they're doing this, I can deal with it.
BUT THEN the command-line window for the Docker container kept going
non-responsive on me, needing a kill with Windows Task Manager. Research
turned up the sorts of sprawling forum threads that I'm used to seeing
for failed Windows updates. Lots of suggestions, most aren't helping,
the problem seemed like an unsolved mystery. And the answer that seemed
most promising would have been non-trivial to implement.
At that point, I retreated back to VirtualBox, Hyper-V, and Windows
Subsystem for Linux. I was getting too far removed from LilyPond to not
feel like I was pursuing a dead end.
IN DEFENSE OF DOCKER, all of that is from memory and I can't recover the
exact details without research. I'm sure my experience is not
representative and that Docker is actually great. No way could it have
as large of a following as it does otherwise. I'm just unfortunate to
have never seen Docker's best stuff or completely understand why I need
it. Someday™ I plan to try again.
But the conclusion I came to is that setup effort for Docker on Windows
is not much different than for VirtualBox. (Unless, of course, someone's
going for the full VirtualBox experience with host-guest shared
clipboard like in that other thread right now. I never got that working
on LilyDev, either, making do with network file shares and such to move
things to and from the VM.)
Docker on Windows is apparently changing a lot, too. Windows Subsystem
for Linux is now going for a full Linux kernel, and allowing Linux file
access and execution from the Windows environment containing it. Haven't
checked for a while, not sure where Microsoft is at with that effort,
but Docker seems to be building on it.
<https://docs.docker.com/docker-for-windows/wsl-tech-preview/>
--
Karlin High
Missouri, USA
- Re: packaging lilypond as a docker container?, (continued)
- Re: packaging lilypond as a docker container?, David Kastrup, 2020/01/22
- Re: packaging lilypond as a docker container?, Han-Wen Nienhuys, 2020/01/22
- Re: packaging lilypond as a docker container?, Jonas Hahnfeld, 2020/01/22
- Re: packaging lilypond as a docker container?, David Kastrup, 2020/01/22
- Re: Re: packaging lilypond as a docker container?, Mats Bengtsson, 2020/01/22
- Re: packaging lilypond as a docker container?, Jan Nieuwenhuizen, 2020/01/22
- Re: packaging lilypond as a docker container?, David Kastrup, 2020/01/22
- Re: packaging lilypond as a docker container?, Jan Nieuwenhuizen, 2020/01/23
- Re: packaging lilypond as a docker container?, Karlin High, 2020/01/22
- Re: packaging lilypond as a docker container?, Jan Nieuwenhuizen, 2020/01/23
- Re: packaging lilypond as a docker container?,
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- Re: packaging lilypond as a docker container?, Werner LEMBERG, 2020/01/21
Re: packaging lilypond as a docker container?, Karlin High, 2020/01/20
Re: packaging lilypond as a docker container?, Kevin Barry, 2020/01/21