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Re: tie over clef change

From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: tie over clef change
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 20:11:46 +0200
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Lukas-Fabian Moser <> writes:

>>  I seem to remember that even in Bach's B minor mass (where E12 was not
>> yet a thing) there is an enharmonic tie (or at least tonal repetition?)
>> in the transition from "Confiteor" to "Et expecto".  I mean, that
>> transition is a tonal center nightmare anyway.
> In bar 138:

PNG image

> Basically that is an example of enharmonic equivalence of diminished
> 7th chords: The tonal centre in the preceding bars is clearly d (d
> major with hints of d minor), so the diminished chord in bar 138 is
> most probably first heard as f♯-a-c-e♭ (with expected resolution to g
> minor), but is then being re-interpreted (and written) as f♯-a-b♯-d♯,
> resolving to c♯ major functioning as a dominant to f♯ minor.
> My point is: Even without E12 tuning, this is clearly an example of
> fully exploited enharmonic equivalence used as a "wormhole" in an
> otherwise purely diatonic tonal system. There can be no question that
> this is semantically a tie.

Thanks for digging this up: I knew there was something like that in

David Kastrup

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