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Re: Fw: LilyPond's 'oldEE' accordion symbol

From: Tom Cato Amundsen
Subject: Re: Fw: LilyPond's 'oldEE' accordion symbol
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 18:35:53 +0200

I have searched most of my accordion literature, both old and modern
norwegian and german publications, some old sovjet accordion books and old
american publications like the one I sent you a snapshot of earlier. I only
find the (R) and (*) symbols in the publications from Alfred Music in New
York. These are single scores with no editorial. So I have no more sources
than what I can google.

Tom Cato

fre. 1. apr. 2022 kl. 09:03 skrev Tom Cato Amundsen <>:

> The publication is only the front page and 6 pages of music, so there is
> no editorial. But I have quite a lot of accordion sheet music, so I will
> have a look and see if I can find something this weekend. A quick google
> search found a discussion, but not a very good description. See below.
> Please email me directly if you have more questions since I am not on the
> devel list.
>> The Frosini book is compiled of reprinted material from the 1930's and
>> 40's. I have a replica of one of the old accordions with only one switch.
>> It would merely mute the lower set(s) of reeds. So R would mean full
>> voice and * would indicate that the lower voice should be muted.
> Tom Cato
> ons. 30. mar. 2022 kl. 15:56 skrev Werner LEMBERG <>:
>> Hello Tom,
>> since I'm not sure whether you have sent the PDF to the list also (if
>> so, your e-mail is still in the queue, I presume) I've forwarded an
>> image of your PDF.
>> David Kastrup has some more questions (attached); it would be nice if
>> you could respond, ideally directly to the list.
>>     Werner
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Kastrup <>
>> To: Werner LEMBERG <>
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:35:22 +0200
>> Subject: Re: LilyPond's 'oldEE' accordion symbol
>> Werner LEMBERG <> writes:
>> >> in 1998 you introduced the 'oldEE' accordion symbol to LilyPond's
>> >> Emmentaler font.  Since some time we are wondering where this symbol
>> >> comes from; we weren't able to find any reference to it.  Could you
>> >> please tell us where you got this from?
>> >
>> > Tom replied and sent me a PDF with a scan of the first three pages of
>> > an accordion transcription of the 'Emperor Waltz', published in 1948
>> > by Alfred Music, New York.
>> >
>> > Attached is an image showing the first few bars; I can forward the PDF
>> > in private e-mail on request.
>> Accordion editions of this age did not really have standardised symbols:
>> I suppose there is a synopsis in the first (editorial) pages of the
>> publication?
>> It would be really interesting to know how much use this symbol might
>> have seen, and whether it was from more than one publisher.
>> --
>> David Kastrup
> --
> Tom Cato Amundsen <>       
> GNU Solfege - free ear training

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