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From: David Bobroff
Subject: Break_Align_Order-3
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:17:16 +0000

>> No spacing entry from BarLine/TimeSignature/KeySignature to
>> `left-edge'/`key-signature'/`left-edge
>The example is not really complete. You should start from the current
>default setting and just move the objects that you want to move.

Ah, so I was on the right track.  I included all of the elements:

\property Score.breakAlignOrder = #'(

And it seems to work.  I *still* got lots of error messages in the console.

programming error:  No spacing entry from BarLine to `' or `key-signature'

>The documentation should be updated.

If I may, I'd like to say something about the documentation in general.
>From an end-user standpoint I'd have to say that the docs are the weakest
part of Lilypond.  I don't mean to say that they're bad.  I'm sure it is
all very well documented.  What I find problematic is that the docs go from
a fairly simple example of HOW THINGS WORK straight to a gory-details
nuts-and-bolts description of the minute workings of the program.  I don't
have a problem with that, either.  What I find lacking is much of anything
in-between.  For example:

\property Score.MultiMeasureRest \override #'expand-limit = #9

...was exactly what I needed to adjust the block rest behavior.  I didn't
need several paragraphs of dense description of how this mechanism works.
That I can save for later.

Now please, I'm not "complaining".  I think Lilypond is great.  It appeals
to me for many reasons.  I just think a "middle ground" level of docs would
be of great value to the new users as well as the "sometimes" users.  I
fall into this category.  I'll have a project, learn a bunch of Lilypond
tricks....and then forget them all before I have another project.  Should I
read the docs more?  Sure.  But knowing a bunch of specific operations
beforehand make it easier to generalize and make use of the nuts-and-bolts

One thing I want to do for myself is make a list of all the tricks etc.
that I've learned that (like the multimeasure rest adjustment above) and
organize them so that they will form the "middle level" docs I'm talking
about (I *have* found the occasional "fix" on the wiki) .  If I manage
that, the next step would be to post them on the web.  I don't know if that
will happen any time soon but I can wish.


David Bobroff
The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system
and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. 

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