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Re: HaraKiriStaffContext for French? style orchestral parts

From: Paul Scott
Subject: Re: HaraKiriStaffContext for French? style orchestral parts
Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 23:03:07 -0700
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Graham Percival wrote:

these parts. This may be fine for a keyboard player but for a single line player it's often very hard to read.
Not too often (I'm a string player, not wind).  If there's a lot of divisi
stuff, it normally splits into two staffs.  I don't find it hard to read,
but I've been training for decades.  :)

I certainly sympathize with your desire to make the music as easy as possible
to read.

That certainly is a main point. It's not that I can't read the other one line divisi stuff. I've been playing for almost 5 decades :)

relevant) staves if they are playing different notes and one staff when they are playing the same notes.

That description reminds me of something like \partcombine.  I don't know
exactly what, or how, it's used, but IIRC Lilypond has some way of combining
two voices (in the same staff) in the manner you describe.  That's why I
suggested using two voices and telling your players to "get used to it".  :)

I guess it's enough that what I want is used often enough: Bolero, Afternoon of a Faun, etc. and it should be easy to reproduce that.

The problem with using hanging staffs for that kind of stuff is that you need
to specify it all manually.  If you used \partcombine, you could just write
each part on its own, and the Lilypond would automatically figure out what
parts need to be written seperately and which parts can be printed together.

If you program a bit, you might be able to hack \partcombine or make a new
fuction that works on multiple staffs.

I just looked that up and I consider it fine for scores but not as good for parts.

As a programmer HaraKiri seems to be the perfect mechanism. It would only require that the algorithm would display one staff of rests if there were notes in all of the parts.

Sorry, I don't completely understand this part.

Because HaraKiri is an automatic way to get the correct number of staves except for the problem of the rests. Actually I still have to cheat a little and place rests in the other voices. So this actually suggests a new mechanism which might be derived from the HaraKiri and \partcombine code.

Another basic part I didn't mention even though I used it in my example is the role 'global' plays here. This is another reason for needing HaraKiri or some new derivative. This then takes us to the whole part extraction question and how to get markings (tempo markings, etc.) to appear at the top of the score and in the individual parts. This has been discussed here but I haven't seen a really magical solution. Maybe this can lead to us discovering an already existing or a new solution to these related questions.

Have fun,


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