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Re: 2 Qns again (Figured BasS)


From: Joshua Koo
Subject: Re: 2 Qns again (Figured BasS)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:14:49 +0800

Thanks alot Mats for your advice again. Sorry I realised that I forget to use 
"Reply All" after sending the mail
so I send another time to lilypond-user.

=) Joshua

======= At 2004-06-16, 22:59:20 you wrote: =======

>Please keep the discussion on the mailing list, for the
>benefit of yourself since you get access to the collected
>expertise on the list and for the benefit of others who experience
>similar problems. Feel free to quote my answer below if you wish.
>
>
>
>Joshua Koo wrote:
>> Thanks Mats, 
>> 
>> the problem now for me is
> > 1. How to position the figures at the location where I want to. 
>Figure I see are usually at the bottom of the notes but depending on the 
>stem direction, lilypond sometimes place them on top of the notes.
>
>Do you mean when using FiguredBass or when using text scripts?
>Text scripts can be explicitly placed above the notes using ^ and
>below the notes using _
>Example: c^"Above" c_"below"
>For FiguredBass, it depends on where you place it in your \score{...}
>section.
>
>> 2. would be how to resolve the figured bass into midi.
>> The documentation says there's limited support for figured bass. Those that 
>> means its not possible.
>> Then how would I be able to write out the chords hidden but heard during 
>> play back in the midi file?
>
>For the moment, FiguredBass is only a drawing board. There have been
>some discussions on the mailing list, but I think the main conclusion
>is that there are too many different conventions used in figured bass.
>Besides, you can never expect a program to do a realization of figured
>bass that has anything musically to do with "good taste" (as is often
>mentioned in the old sources).
>
>Regarding your Chinese example, it was probably some temporary problem
>with the server. I know nothing about typesetting Chinese in LaTeX.
>Once you have a method to typeset these characters using LaTeX with
>ASCII input, it should not be hard to do it within LilyPond.
>You can find a somewhat related discussion in the mailing lists about
>typesetting Hebrew.
>
>    /Mats
>
>>>
>>>Joshua Koo wrote:
>>>
>>>>2. Adding figured bass directly to the notes instead of an extra context.
>>>>According to Tips and Trips, this is possible using markup. 
>>>>However, would using markup have the same output with the figured context?
>>>>Is there anything command to use like
>>>>    c4-\figures{ <3 5> }
>>>>Or maybe if the notes can be spilt into 2 "voices" and the 2nd voice used 
>>>>for the figured bass.
>>>>    << { c4 } \\ { \figures{ <3 5>8 <4 6> } } >>
>>>
>>>Just use the ordinary syntax for fingerings or text scripts:
>>>c^3^5
>>>If you define commands like
>>>sharp = \markup{ \small \sharp }
>>>you could also say c^3^\sharp
>>>In more complicated examples, you will need the power of the
>>>\markup command, see 
>>>http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Text-markup.html#Text%20markup
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> Its funny I have no problem accessing them from here.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>>And a final qn. This should be the 3rd qn but since I havnt got a solution 
>>>>since the last time, so... (ignore my cold joke)
>>>>I scaned and uploaded a score with chinese that I would like to help 
>>>>typeset. The pictures are at
>>>>http://www.lab4games.net/zz85/junk/ly/change1.jpg page1
>>>>http://www.lab4games.net/zz85/junk/ly/change2.jpg page2
>>>>I'm thinking it should be fairly easy to typeset this, on the other hand, 
>>>>I'm not too sure.
>>>
>>>I cannot access these pages, "connection is refused".
>>>
>>>   /Mats
>>>
>>>.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Joshua
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
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