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Re: How to lengthen dynamics hairpin


From: Michael Lakes
Subject: Re: How to lengthen dynamics hairpin
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:26:36 -0700

From: David Rogers <address@hidden>
To: Lilypond-User <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: How to lengthen dynamics hairpin
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:31:02 -0700


On Aug 24, 2004, at 2:27 PM, Bertalan Fodor wrote:

I was thinking about it and I think the problem is general with dynamics. I suppose they shouldn't start and end where they do now. They start too late and end too soon. The latter is more important. Some hand-engraved score could help deciding this. Generally I feel that the < and > mark should include the noteheads they belong to.

Looking at just a few hand-engraved scores (all from before 1970, including Universal Edition, Gutheil [from Russia], Peters, and Boosey & Hawkes), it seems that the rules for the dynamic marks < and > are complex and/or flexible. They seem to be placed so that they start at the left side of the first notehead, and end at the right side of the last notehead, *IF* the < > are closest to the heads of the notes and not the stems. If they are closest to the beam of a beamed group of notes, they seem to coincide with the length of the beam. But if the < or > are nearest the stems of notes that don't have beams, then they extend through the plane of the heads of the notes and don't stop at the stems. Usually.

If the < or > are just before a bar line, and are intended to continue only to the first note of the next bar, they go well past the end of the last note of the previous bar, but not quite as far as the bar line. *Sometimes*. Other times they do cross the bar line for only one note. And they also seem often to be "harmonized" graphically with whatever happens to be next to them - sometimes they will coincide with a sharp rather than the notehead, for example, presumably only because it was the closest element; or they may be shortened or bent to accomodate other markings.

Some of the < and > signs do not follow these formats at all - instead, presumably intended as more "general" signs, they cover whole bars or several bars, and are obviously placed without regard to note positions.

I have a music notation book, it shows the cresc/dim start from the left of the note and ends in the right side of the other note. The lines pass the right side of the note if it's cresc. Otherwise they are just to the right side of the note. Angled placement is also acceptable if it's going to collide with slur lines.

Also, it's possible to extend the lines all the way to the end of a measure or pass it if it's intended to be played as such (like a whole note for a flute makes sense, but piano doesn't).

A little offtopic, but on the topic of notation :) Shouldn't the tempo mark be align with the time signature instead of left aligned to the page?

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