Re: Simple OS X Lily previewer in the works (was getting Lily/mftrace on MacOSX)

[Sean Reed]

hi ed,

> (1) Would use use this application? (Feel free to just email me 
> directly.)
i would certainly try it out. i use texshop for my latex texts and like 
it very much. i currently use jEdit for lilypond, and by the way don't 
find it slow at all, as opposed to an issue which was on the list 
recently.

> (2) Any other key features you'd like to see?
point and click.

> (3) Echoing Han-Wen's inquiry about a binary distribution: what would 
> be a reasonable price?
firstly, i am very grateful for the work that goes into valuable 
creations, and feel that nobody should work for nothing. however, as an 
experimental composer, i often find myself working for little to 
nothing.

the "reasonable price" is an odd issue for me and i didn't put in my 
two cents to that discussion on the list recently either. but: i find 
the concept of "reasonable" when it comes to software like this 
undefinable. in my opinion, lilypond's output is far superior to finale 
and sibelius, which both go for 700 to 800 euros (i live in germany), 
and its flexibility is great and growing. so based on that, you could 
justify selling a self-installing lilypond binary for the same amount 
or more. however, i consider 700 and 800 euros for this software to be 
an unreasonable price, and even if somebody were to explain to me why 
it is reasonable, i certainly could not afford to invest in those 
programs or their updates or their "os x" compatible versions anyway.

i am a professional composer for contemporary art music and computer 
generated and interactive art music (i hate that term, but am only 
attempting to point out that i have professional standards but no money 
or potential for commercial use of my works when they are finished) and 
use two other pieces of software which are among the international 
standards for "art" computer composition and the leading and cutting 
edge for professional sound quality, namely supercollider and csound. 
these programmes are constantly under development and there are 
binaries for several platforms. both of these programmes are open(ish) 
source and free of charge in both their binary and source forms. this 
is something which i, as an artist who is regularly involved in 
experimental projects with limited budgets that often exclude my own 
payment and have no "resale" value, am very very appreciative of.

this doesn't answer the question directly, and by no means would i ever 
want to suggest that anybody invest blood sweat and tears to develop 
something for me with no reimbursement, but it does imply that if there 
were a way to keep the program free of fee, i for one would be very 
grateful.

best,
sean
--------------------------------------------
Sean Reed
Hamburg, Germany
Web: www.seanreed.de

On 13.03.2005, at 23:41, Ed Baskerville wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've just started work on a simple LilyPond previewer for OS X. It 
> will be similar to TeXShop, but simpler--at the expense, perhaps, of 
> flexibility. The application will be a simple LilyPond text editor 
> with indent balancing, parenthesis balancing, and code completion and 
> "almost live" PDF previewing--a straightforward, one-trick pony.
>
> I was mostly silent about this because I hadn't actually written any 
> code until Thursday. Now that I have some basic functionality, I 
> thought I'd gauge interest. I'll try to have a test version available 
> soon, probably without syntax coloring or code completion.
>
> A few questions for you all:
>
> (1) Would use use this application? (Feel free to just email me 
> directly.)
> (2) Any other key features you'd like to see?
> (3) Echoing Han-Wen's inquiry about a binary distribution: what would 
> be a reasonable price?
>
> --Ed
>
> On Mar 12, 2005, at 12:59 AM, Nicolas Sceaux wrote:
>
> > Thank you!
> > Now LilyPond is compiling.
> > Soon I'll be able to see if using LilyPond inside TeXShop is doable
> > and interesting.
> >
> > nicolas
>
>
>
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