Re: barline question

[Maurits Lamers]

Hi :)

In case you didn't read my original post:

I am creating a score for a piece of H. Schütz with Lilypond 2.2.5 
(with Fink on Mac). When setting this old kind of music it is often 
better to not use a standard Choirstaff, but to use the bar lines only 
between the bars. As far as I know this is quite common in late 
renaissance and early baroque vocal music.

So I used a StaffGroup and set the Staff.BarLine #'transparent = ##t.
Since I needed repeat signs, I had to be able to put the transparency 
off to avoid losing the repeat signs themselves.
The result: I have a part that shows the bar lines between the staves 
only, except for the repeat signs.
One detail: for the repeat signs I used \bar ":|" instead of \repeat 
volta. It doesn't seem to make a difference for this problem though.

One problem remains: the lyrics are running into the bar lines. In the 
documentation I found that adding the Bar_engraver to the Lyrics 
context would avoid this. This works, but it adds barlines below the 
last staff and prints the repeat sign : -- : on the Lyrics height. 
Trying to avoid that, I used \override BarLine #'transparent = ##t, but 
this leaves a hole in the vertical repeat bar line.

Any idea how to be able to avoid lyric-bar line-collisions without 
having to nudge each lyric into the right position?

Thanks in advance :)

greets

Maurits

Op 2-apr-05 om 20:20 heeft Graham Percival het volgende geschreven:

> On 31-Mar-05, at 3:19 AM, Maurits Lamers wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Still one question though.
> >
> > I tried Score.BarLine #'transparent = ##t, but that worked too well.
> > The repeat sign I wanted to show, didn't show, even when I set it to 
> > false before \bar.
> >
> > So I changed it into Staff.BarLine and disabled it just before the 
> > repeat sign and enabling it afterwards.
> > Worked perfectly.
> >
> > Since I am making a choir piece for 5 voices I wanted to add the 
> > Bar_engraver to the Lyric context so that the bar lines between the 
> > staves didn't collide with the lyrics. But that didn't worked out the 
> > way I intended, because the repeat sign now showed both in the bar 
> > and the lyric line. Setting the bar lines to transparent in the lyric 
> > context only created a blank in the thick bar between the staves.
> > I even tried to add the Span_bar_engraver instead, but that didn't do 
> > anything.
> >
> > Anyone an idea how to keep the bar lines and lyrics from colliding 
> > while keeping the normal repeat signs in the part ?
>
> I don't understand -- if you use a ChoirStaff, then bar lines aren't 
> drawn where the lyrics
> are printed.  Why play all the games with invisible bar lines and 
> moving engravers around?
>
> \version "2.5.17"
> \score{
>   \new ChoirStaff <<
>     \new Staff { c'4 d' e' f' g' a' b' c'}
>     \addlyrics {foo foo foo foo bar }
>     \new Staff { c'4 d' e' f' g' a' b' c'}
>     \addlyrics {foo foo foo foo bar }
> >>
> }