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Re: New user + notation queries


From: Mats Bengtsson
Subject: Re: New user + notation queries
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:03:09 +0200
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Joseph Wakeling wrote:

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Hello all,

A novice user here, although delighted with what I've discovered so far
in Lilypond.  Half as a joke, when first fiddling around I decided to
ask for a 7/10 time signature, and found it not just accepted but
correctly interpreted!  So, much fun.

Anyway, I've encountered a number of issues I'm hoping people can help
with.  Please forgive me if it's "simple" stuff I should have worked out
from the documentation.

Attached is part of a piece I'm trying to notate in Lilypond.  These are
the problems (there are others in another piece I'm trying to notate,
but I'll discuss that in a separate email):


(1) I've decided I want flat beams in this piece---it just seems to look
better, and give a better feel of the rhythmic structure.  As you can
see I've put in the line

\override Beam #'slope-limit = #0

which I found in the mailing list archives, but this generates the
following error:

warning: can't find property type-check for `slope-limit'
(backend-type?).  perhaps a typing error?

So, what's wrong?

That you looked at an old email and the LilyPond is still developing
quickly. To find a list of relevant properties to tweak, go to the section
on Automatic Beams in the on-line manual and click on the link at the
bottom to the Program Reference for Beam. Without having tried, I
would go for the damping property.

(2) In the second bar, you can see that there are sometimes rests in one
voice while the other voice is playing.  What I want is, first, that the
rests be invisible, but second, that there be short stems where the
"notes" (or rests) would be.  I tried using s (as in "skip") but did not
get any beams or stems.
That was an uncommon request! The best way I can think of to get the stems but
no note heads is to use ordinary notes but make the note heads invisible:
\override NoteHead #'transparent = ##t

I note too that even as they are the rests appear to be oddly placed,
that is, in the "normal" position on the staff rather than offset up or
down according to whether they are in voice one or two.  Is there a way
of dealing with this (for future reference where I may *want* rests in
the different voices)?
I'm not sure about the exact details on how LilyPond moves around rests to
avoid collisions, but you can always use the \rest feature to manually specify
the rest position.

(3) Is it possible to get alternative quarter-tone symbols?  In
particular I don't like the 3/4-flat sign; I'd much rather have the
combined backwards-flat plus ordinary flat "db" sign.  In other pieces I
might want to use accidentals-with-arrows as sometimes that seems to be
a preferable option.
You could try something like:

\once \override Accidental #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
\once \override Accidental #'text = \markup{ \override #'(word-space . 0.4) \line {\semiflat \flat }}


  /Mats





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