Re: Embedding lily pdfs in InDesign

[Trevor Bača]

On 8/30/06, fiëé visuëlle <address@hidden> wrote:
> Am 2006-08-30 um 04:33 schrieb Trevor Bača:
> > Ah, I think this is what I'm messing up. I've been trying to install
> > the LilyPond fonts into OS X and it's proving to be *very* difficult.
> > I've mentioned my installation attempts in a thread Kieren started in
> > February (http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2006-02/
> > msg00400.html)
> > but the short of the matter is that using OS X's FontBook to install
> > the several different sizes of Emmentaler has been frustrating.
> > FontBook shows all the sizes as being there, but InDesign will
> > recognize (and display in its Font menu) only 4 or 5 of the sizes. If
> > I delete all the Emmentaler fonts from the whatever/Fonts folder to
> > which FontBook writes, and then reinstall, then InDesign will see all
> > the sizes *until I quit InDesign and restart*, at which point InDesign
> > believes there're only 4 or 5 sizes again. Grrr ...
>
> There are some nasty problems with Apples font management, it doesn't
> seem to register some font faces. Sometimes it helps to deactive the
> fonts and activate again, sometimes nothing helps...
> Try Linotype's FontExplorer, it's free and better:
> http://www.linotype.com/2006/tools.html
> (I didn't try Emmentaler with it.)

Awesome interface. Downloaded it, tried it, it does work, but InDesign
still shows some of the Emmentaler sizes as missing, even after import
with FontExplorer ... BUT, the point you make below about lily's PDFs
already having the fonts embedded means that I shouldn't have to
import the cheese fonts anyway, so maybe font installation under OS X
isn't the problem I should be chasing ...


> > Henning wrote:
> >
> > FV > I regularly use LilyPond PDFs with InDesign (CS, CS2) and ConTeXt
> > and never had problems with those.
> >
> > This gives me hope. But take a look at the attachments. The
> > "before.png" shows a bit of a lily-generated pdf as it comes out of
> > lily. Perfect. The "after.png" shows what happens when I place the
> > lily-generated pdf into InDesign and then export back out of InDesign
> > to make a new pdf. Yuck. It looks like the lines (staff lines, ledger
> > ...
> > I'm assuming what *must* be going on here is that InDesign simply
> > isn't seeing some of the LilyPond fonts (like certain sizes of the
> > Emmentaler set) and so is substituting in a really ugly way. So maybe
> > what I really need help with is figuring out how to install "the"
> > LilyPond fonts under OS X.
>
> LilyPond's PDFs have the fonts embedded, they don't need to be
> installed.
> I never experienced something similar with LilyPond PDFs (but
> sometimes with output from other programs that used Quicktime drawing
> routines).
>
> BTW: I'm still using LilyPond 2.8.1 (didn't dare to try a newer
> version yet, because I had bad luck with some versions between 2.6
> and 2.8.1). My machine is a G4/400 (PPC) with OSX 10.4.7
> I don't think so, but perhaps it's a OSX/Intel problem?
>
> You could send me a .ly and .pdf to try.

Cool! I'll mail you the attachments privately ...


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Trevor Bača
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