Re: Flamenco notation (cont'd); questions and call for comments

[Marc Hohl]

On Monday 17 March 2008 08:22:34 Oscar van Eijk wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Last week I sent a mail with some flamenco notations. Since then, I've
> been playing around a little (the result is just too big to attach; it's
> at http://vaneyck.terra-terra.com/flamenco.pdf).
> The inline lilypond code uses the attached flamenco.ly.
> It contains a simple up-down stroke with the index, a 3- and 4- finger
> rasqueado, an abanico and an alzapua.
>
> Question to all Flamenco guitarists/Lilypond users; what's your opinion
> about this notation?

Hi Oscar,

your example looks very good - great to see that there are some guitarist out 
there using lilypond!

Just a short remark about bar 4: the letter "p" is somewhat misplaced and 
looks like an uppercase "P", this is AFAIK a problem concerning the alignment 
of letters in lilypond, which are not aligned at the baseline. But I didn't 
find any solutions or workarounds (yet).

Generally, I would use the \small sizes of p, i, m, a and x throughout - I 
think they look better in combination with the \ltoe/\rtoe signs.

Grretings

Marc

>
> For all who can help me further a few questions:
> - I want to use symbols like:
> iUp   = \markup{i}^\rtoe
> iDown = \markup{i}^\rtoe
> to make notating a bit shorter, but the ^\ltoe and ^\rtoe are not
> accepted here. Should I use a different syntax?
>
> - The text "Abanico" should be above the 'p x i' indications. How can I
> achieve that? An override extra-offset does not seem accepted between
> markups.
>
> - Same with the golpe symbol; it should always appear above the 'p', but
> sometimes it's below and collides with the 'p'.
>
> - Last but not least; the figures appear quite often in a flamenco
> piece, so I'ld prefer to have some function that allows me to enter e.g.
> \rasgueado3 { <a e' a cis e>16 }.
> I found the "Music function" section in the docs, but if I understand
> this chapter correct, that works only for layout and can't take pieces
> of music (in the case a chord) as an argument.
> Am I wrong?
>
> Here's my testcode:
>
>
>
> \version "2.11.41"
>
> \include "flamenco.ly"
>
> %iUp   = \markup{i}^\rtoe
> %iDown = \markup{i}^\rtoe
>
> part = \relative c' {
> %  <a, e' a cis e>8^\iUp
> %  <a e' a cis e>8^\iDown
>   <a, e' a cis e>8^\rtoe^\markup{i}
>   <a e' a cis e>8^\ltoe^\markup{i}
>   r4
>   r2^\golpe
>
>
>   <a e' a cis e>16^\rtoe^\markup{a}
>   \headsOff
>   <a e' a cis e>^\rtoe^\markup{m}
>       <a e' a cis e>^\rtoe^\markup{i}
>       <a e' a cis e>^\ltoe^\markup{i}~
>   \headsOn
>   <a e' a cis e>2
>       r4
>
>
>
>   % Tuplet number should be set transparent, since the
>   % headsOff is in the tuplet.
>   %
>   \once \override TupletNumber #'transparent = ##t
>   \times 4/5 {
>     <a e' a cis e>16^\rtoe^\markup{\small x}
>     \headsOff
>     <a e' a cis e>^\rtoe^\markup{\small a}
>     <a e' a cis e>^\rtoe^\markup{\small m}
>     <a e' a cis e>^\rtoe^\markup{\small i}
>     <a e' a cis e>^\ltoe^\markup{\small i}~
>     \headsOn
>   }
>   <a e' a cis e>2
>   r4
>
>
>
>   % Tuplet number should be set transparent, since the
>   % headsOff is in the tuplet.
>   %
>   \once \override TupletNumber #'transparent = ##t
>   \times 2/3 {
>     <a e' a cis e>8^\ltoe^\markup{p}^\abanico
>     \headsOff
>     <a e' a cis e>^\rtoe^\markup{x}
>               <a e' a cis e>^\rtoe^\markup{i}
>     \headsOn
>   }
>
>   % And again, since headsOn makes it visible again
>   \once \override TupletNumber #'transparent = ##t
>   \times 2/3 {
>               <a e' a cis e>8^\ltoe^\markup{p}
>     \headsOff
>     <a e' a cis e>^\rtoe^\markup{x}
>               <a e' a cis e>^\rtoe^\markup{i}
>     \headsOn
>   }
>
>   \once \override TupletNumber #'transparent = ##t
>   \times 2/3 {
>     <a e' a cis e>8^\ltoe
>     \headsOff
>     <a e' a cis e>^\rtoe
>     <a e' a cis e>^\rtoe
>     \headsOn
>   }
>
>   \once \override TupletNumber #'transparent = ##t
>   \times 2/3 {
>     <a e' a cis e>8^\ltoe
>     \headsOff
>     <a e' a cis e>^\rtoe
>     <a e' a cis e>^\rtoe
>     \headsOn
>   }
>
>
>
>   \override TupletNumber #'transparent = ##t
>   \times 2/3 {
>               a8^\markup{p}
>               <e' a>^\rtoe^\golpe^\markup{p}
>               <e a>^\ltoe^\markup{p}
>       }
>       \times 2/3 {
>               a,8^\markup{p}
>               <e' a>^\rtoe^\golpe
>               <e a>^\ltoe
>       }
>       \times 2/3 {
>               a,8^\markup{p}
>               <e' a>^\rtoe^\golpe^\markup{p}
>               <e a>^\ltoe^\markup{p}
>       }
>       \times 2/3 {
>               a,8^\markup{p}
>               <e' a>^\rtoe^\golpe
>               <e a>^\ltoe
>       }
>   \override TupletNumber #'transparent = ##f
> }
>
> \score {
>       \new StaffGroup <<
>               \context Staff=part <<
>                       \clef G
>                       \transpose c c'
>                       {
>                               \part
>                       }
>
>               \context TabStaff {
>                       \part
>               }
>
>       \layout{
>               ragged-right = ##t
>       }
> }
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Oscar



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