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Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation


From: u_li
Subject: Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 08:17:02 -0700 (PDT)

Maybe that's how to characterise it ;-)
This simplest thing is what I originally did, but it uses way too much space
- which probably is one of the reasons "the author" (Anton Webern) did it
like this in the first place.

As mentioned in another post I stick with the musically wrong but optically
correct version.

Best
Urs


Phil Holmes-2 wrote:
> 
> OK - so the original author was being lazy by writing it as a shorthand. 
> Perhaps the simplest thing would be to repeat the first set of 3 triplets
> to 
> make the second half of the bar?
> 
> --
> Phil Holmes
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "u_li" <address@hidden>
> To: <address@hidden>
> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 3:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
> 
> 
>>
>> I'm not exactly sure what you mean.
>> Do you talk about the line below the left of the two empty note heads? 
>> Yes,
>> that's a ledger line.
>> There are no tremolo marks at all in the picture, but the second part of 
>> the
>> bar is meant to continue the pattern of the first part, i.e. 9
>> alternating
>> eights with the initial note as the last one.
>> So it practically is a tremolo.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Best
>> Urs
>>
>>
>> Phil Holmes-2 wrote:
>>>
>>> I would have assumed that what you have taken as tremolo marks are
>>> actually
>>> leger lines - are you sure they're not?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Phil Holmes
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "u_li" <address@hidden>
>>> To: <address@hidden>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 12:36 PM
>>> Subject: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear community,
>>>>
>>>> I have an unusual tremolo notation to typeset with LilyPond:
>>>> http://old.nabble.com/file/p28502145/tremolonotation_2.jpg
>>>> tremolonotation_2.jpg
>>>> The first part of the bar shows the real notes, the second part the
>>>> shorthand notation Webern used for the rest of the score.
>>>>
>>>> With
>>>>  \repeat tremolo 3 { cis g }
>>>> I can typeset the note-heads, stems and beams correctly, but not the
>>>> "9"
>>>> -
>>>> and of course it would still be different music with different
>>>> midi-output
>>>> (straight 8ths instead of triplets).
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to produce such an irregular tremolo (ending on the
>>>> initial
>>>> note)?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>> Urs
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