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Re: Repeat alternative includes a tempo change


From: Ken Smith
Subject: Re: Repeat alternative includes a tempo change
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 11:29:53 -0400

Phil,
 
Thank you for your suggestion.  I'm very reluctant to take up forum message space with large chunks of my testfile code.  I can do it if you'd like.  But I think I might be able to do something similar to what you proposed by using the standard volta and alternative by (1) including the final phrase in the melody in the \alternative ending, and (2) using \markup to change the tempo of that alternative ending.  Will give that solution a try.  And in any event, the standard volta/alternative with upbeat note appears to be one of the many variations of the melody.  So, thank you so very much again for your kind help.
 
Very best regards,
 
Ken
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: Repeat alternative includes a tempo change

Ken,
 
It's difficult to be definitive with advice when wee can't use your code since it doesn't compile as supplied.  However, my temptation would be simply to mark the repeat "Repeat 4 times" unless it's obvious from the lyrics, and mark the tempo change "4th repeat only".

--
Phil Holmes
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Smith
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: Repeat alternative includes a tempo change

Mike:
 
Thank you very much for your helpful advice.  My problem is really how to code the final verse of my four-verse 'learning' melody.  I've diagrammed below how I think I'll have to code the melody, but I'm wondering if there's a different, less complicated, way to go about doing it.
 
\melody
%%  ( for verses 1, 2, 3 only )
stanza1, stanza 2
\repeat volta 3
{  stanza 3, stanza 4  }
 
%% ( then continue notation for final verse 4 )
stanza 1, stanza 2    %%  (first two stanzas of verse 4 are played at same tempo as  for verses 1, 2, 3 )
\repeat volta
    {   \markup tempo = "slower, sadly"
        stanza 3, stanza 4
    }
\alternative    %%  ( use for the octave upbeat on final note of melody )
    { d'2~d2\fermata }
\bar " || "
 
In other words, it seems to me that I'll have to code a volta for three verses, then another volta for the fourth verse, with an alternate ending for the last notes of the final stanza.
Thank you again for taking the time to help me.
 
Very best regards,
 
Ken
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: Repeat alternative includes a tempo change

On May 5, 2011, at 9:08 PM, Ken Smith wrote:

I'm new to LilyPond (v2.12.3) and to music notation in general, so I'm just a tad beyond the starting point on LilyPond's learning curve.  I'm scratching my head now as to how to write the repeats in my learning testfile, "Podmoskovnye Vechera", (Moscow Nights).  The melody has four verses, each verse has two couplets (i.e., four stanzas per verse), with the second couplet repeated in each of the four verses.  The repeats for the first three verses are identical, but the repeat for the final verse includes a tempo change (slower, sadly) with an octave upbeat at the end.  I'm only coding the melody line for now; here's the code I've been using (time = 2/4):
 
\bar "|:"
\repeat volta 4                    %% notation shows repeat for verses 1, 2, 3, only
    {
        b4 cis4
        e8 d8 a4~a8
        e4 d8 \mbreak            %% \mbreak defined in my  '%% Definitions' block
        a'8. g16 bes4~bes4
        c8 bes8
        a4 g8 f8
    }
\alternative                        %% notation shows repeat for verse 4
    {
        {a4 g8 f8 d2 }
        { d'2~d2\fermata }
    }
\bar "||"
 
To get it right (volta showing verses 1 - 4, alternative showing verse 4 only) will I need to code the final couplet of verse 4 into \alternative?  Or is there a better, more professional way to do it?
 

Generally, alternative endings start on the first full measure during which a repeated section diverges.  It sounds like the solution would be to back the beginning of the alternative up one measure so that the changed upbeat can be part of the alternative.

Cheers,
MS


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