Re: Ossia Staves

[Phil Holmes]

Please "reply all" when answering replies from the lilypond user mailing 
list - that way others get to see the information exchanged, and may be able 
to help and may benefit.

OK - firstly, your minimal example still isn't as minimal as it could be - 
and for me, some of that extra information obcusres what's going on. 
http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html may help (an example - why the 
triplets? and the key signatures?).

Secondly, your example doesn't do what you're trying to do in your main 
score, as far a I can see.  You asked for an ossia to be started in the 
middle of the main music.  Your example starts the ossia at the same time as 
the music starts, not in the middle.

So I've simplified what you've done and rearranged the code so the ossia 
starts after a bar of the music.  Note that the use of relative entry mode 
means that there is interaction between the notes in the ossia and in the 
main stave, and so I've removed this for simplicity sake - you may need to 
experiment in your own use.  Please reply all if you can't use this example 
to do what you want.

--
Phil Holmes


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Anthony Vershov
To: Phil Holmes
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: Ossia Staves


Hi Phil,


Thanks for your reply. I took your advice and created a separate, minimal 
example with just a few notes. When I copied this example (ossia_example.ly) 
to my main score, it didn't work. I also tried copying the example that's in 
the Notation Reference straight into the main score, but that didn't work 
either.


Do you know what else I can try? Is there some command I may have in my main 
score that's tripping this up?


AJ



On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Phil Holmes <address@hidden> wrote:

This is much too complex for most of us to be able to help with.   Could I 
suggest you read the section on Ossia staves in the Notation Reference:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/modifying-single-staves#ossia-staves

Then try to create a minimal example based on that - I would expect the 
example to have very few notes, but just to make the main staves and the 
lined-up ossia that you want.  Once you've worked out how to do that, it 
should be easy to amend your real score to match.

If you can't get a very simple example to work, please ask again here.

--
Phil Holmes


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Anthony Vershov
To: address@hidden
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 2:09 AM
Subject: Ossia Staves


I've been working on replicating an edition of the Fourth Concert by Georg 
Golterman (see attachment "fourth_concert.ly").

This particular edition requires, at the end of the first part, two smaller 
ossia staves that are aligned directly above their respective main staves. 
I've managed to successfully recreate these two ossia staves on their own in 
a separate document (see attachment "ossia_staves.ly").

However, when I insert the code of ossia_staves.ly directly at the end of 
the fourth_concert.ly document, the output looks nothing like it does in the 
ossia_staves.ly document. The notes are all several octaves higher, a new 
staff is created, and the ossia staves are misaligned. They look fine in 
their own document, but when I put the code into the existing document, it 
becomes a disaster.


Does anybody know how I can successfully recreate the two ossia staves as 
they appear in the ossia_staves.ly document in the fourth_concert.ly 
document instead; i.e. how I can insert them into the fourth concert without 
the output going completely haywire? I have no idea what the problem is and 
nothing I have tried has worked.

Any help would be appreciated!


Thanks,


AJ




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