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Re: Hungarian Gregorian
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Ali Cuota |
Subject: |
Re: Hungarian Gregorian |
Date: |
Wed, 28 Jan 2015 21:43:33 -0500 |
Dear Sr. Judit,
I thought, there is some kind of reason like this one...
Honestly, the conventional gregorian typo is almost self-explanatory,
and has a very tough "spelling". I noticed this first when trying to
use another (more lily-friendly than gregorian.ly) system.
But nevertheless, I follow this thread and see if there is an
automagic solution for your use.
Cordially
Franck
2015-01-28 18:48 GMT-05:00, Trevor Daniels <address@hidden>:
> Hi
>
> Bad news, I'm afraid. There is no simple way to change the shape of the
> note heads used in Gregorian ligatures (the things coded as \[ ... \]).
> These ligatures are built up from a wide variety of glyphs in
> Vaticana_ligature_engraver.cc. The whole ligature is then treated as a
> single graphical object so the spacing of its components is not affected by
> changes in layout. The same applies to Mensural notation.
>
> The work done by Pierre is an excellent start, but as he acknowledged it's
> not easy to use. If this could be coupled with a suitable input syntax
> which could be interpreted by a music function to invoke the new grobs he
> defined it would be much more usable. As a final stage that could be
> converted into a new engraver. But that is quite a lot of work.
>
> Sorry this is not much help.
>
> Trevor
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rita Composer
> To: Pierre Perol-Schneider
> Cc: address@hidden ; address@hidden
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Hungarian Gregorian
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
> Wow, that looks perfect :-)
> My little problem, is that it seems very complicated to me to creat/
> edit...
>
>
> I was wandering, that could you override melisma setting?
> Because I have problem with the shape of the notes.
> (I don't know the name of this \[ g a h c \] )
>
>
> I could solve the 5th line, we can override stem.
> I hope it's possible, and I don't have to deal with so complicated
> adjusting.
>
>
> Here is my example again. Where it would be great to change the shape of
> the classical gregorian notes.
>
>
> Thanks
> Sister Judit
>
>
> chantEgy = \relative c' {
> \override NoteHead.style = #'default
>
> \[ g a h c \]
>
> c h a g \divisioMinima
>
> \[ h4 \virga a g \] d' c h a g \divisioMinima
>
> \finalis
>
> }
>
> verba = \lyricmode {
>
> Lo -- _ _ _ rem ip -- sum do -- lor _ _ sit a -- men a -- men
>
> }
>
> \markup { 3 }
>
> \score {
>
> \new VaticanaStaff <<
>
> \override VaticanaStaff.StaffSymbol #'line-count = #5
>
> \new VaticanaVoice = "melody" \chantEgy
>
> % \new VaticanaVoice = "melody" \chantKettő
>
> \new Lyrics = "one" \lyricsto melody \verba
>
> >>
>
> \layout {
>
> \context {
>
> \VaticanaStaff
>
> \override StaffSymbol.color = #black
>
> \override LedgerLineSpanner.color = #black
>
> }
>
> }
>
> }
>
>
>
> 2015-01-28 17:36 GMT+01:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider
> <address@hidden>:
>
> <please respond to the list>
>
>
> Hi Sister Judith,
>
>
> Yes, you're right - not so much time though, interesting time I should
> say!
>
> I've added a draft to the LSR : http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=973
>
> Stems and ornaments have been changed into other characters.
>
> Glad you loke it.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Pierre
>
>
>
> 2015-01-28 17:26 GMT+01:00 Rita Composer <address@hidden>:
>
> Wow, thank you so much!!!
>
>
> The layout/ view is almost perfect :-)
>
> The curved "stems" are a bit too far from the notes.
>
>
> Am I right that you used signs instead of notes?
>
> You must have been spending quite much time to do. (for me it seems a
> bit complicated at the moment...I try to get used to it)
>
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Sister Judit
>
>
>
> 2015-01-28 15:48 GMT+01:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider
> <address@hidden>:
>
> Hi,
>
>
> First of all, I have to admit that I know almost nothing about those
> type of chants.
>
> Anyway...
>
> AFAIK, there is no predefined context or commands that will do -
> exactly - such scores.
> I've done something similar on the german forum :
> http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?topic=1801.msg9962#msg9962
>
> The main idea was to put one voice per grouped note.
>
>
> In your particular case it does not seem to be a good idea; So
> please find attached a compilable file :
>
> 1. I've tried to stick as much as possible to your original pdf.
>
> 2. the idea was to change the note heads stencil with grouped notes
> - with or without stems, spaces and/or ornaments.
>
> 3. not easy...
>
>
> Hope you'll find better and/or easier solution.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pierre
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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- Hungarian Gregorian, Rita Composer, 2015/01/27
- Re: Hungarian Gregorian, Rita Composer, 2015/01/28
- Re: Hungarian Gregorian, Trevor Daniels, 2015/01/28
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- Re: Hungarian Gregorian, Rita Composer, 2015/01/29
- Re: Hungarian Gregorian, Pierre Perol-Schneider, 2015/01/29
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- Re: Hungarian Gregorian, Pierre Perol-Schneider, 2015/01/31
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- Re: Hungarian Gregorian, Rita Composer, 2015/01/31
- Re: Hungarian Gregorian, Pierre Perol-Schneider, 2015/01/31
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