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Re: PyQt5


From: Urs Liska
Subject: Re: PyQt5
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 16:54:08 +0100
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Am 05.12.2016 um 16:37 schrieb Federico Bruni:
> Il giorno lun 5 dic 2016 alle 16:14, Urs Liska <address@hidden> ha
> scritto:
>> Thank you for this explanation, which I could conveniently follow.
>> Until:
>>
>>>
>>> Now the problem is how many dependencies you need to upgrade and the
>>> conflicts that will occur.
>>
>> Well, the first thing was that I would have to pin the python3
>> package as well - and then I was flooded with a bunch of unmatched <=
>> *and* >= dependecies.
>> Which basically is what I was afraid of.
>
> Mmmmh, I see.
>
>>
>> So I think I will have to go for one out of:
>> Waiting until PyQt and Qt are updated in my Distro
>> Switching the whole distro to testing (is that risky? (I mean
>> changing, not running testing, which I did earlier))
>> Completely switching to something else (with the hassle of setting up
>> again everything)
>> working with a dual boot (or VM) only for Frescobaldi work.
>> Actually I don't like any of these ...
>>
>
> I've used Debian testing for several years (switched to Fedora last
> year) and I can tell that it's stable.
> I can't remember any big problem or instability issues.

I had this running as well (I think when 7 was "testing").

> If you happen to be hit by a bug in some package, it will be fixed
> quickly, because it's a rolling release, often updated (this may be
> seen as a drawback, because upgrades and downloads of packages are
> more frequent than in stable releases).
> Debian stable has a very slow release cycle. I've never been able to
> use it because of this.

I don't worry about the stability of Debian testing but would like to be
somewhat assured about the process of switching to it. IIUC it basically
boils down to switching the package repositories from stable to testing
and upgrading with apt-get, isn't it?
So how high should I consider the risks of substantial complications on
the way? And would I have a way to have apt do some kind of rollback?

Maybe there are other risks stemming from the fact that

>
> My suggestion is switching to Debian testing.
> Why did you choose Linux Mint? Because of desktop environments
> alternative to Gnome which were not available in Debian? 

Actually I don't really recall what was the trigger for me to switch.
Maybe I had some issue with the Debian/Gnome setup I had, or I just
wanted to try out something different after reading about Mint?
Anyway I chose LMDE, which is a Mint based on Debian instead of Ubuntu
repositories.
I liked the Cinnamon desktop, and maybe that wasn't (isn't) available
under Debian (then)?

If I don't have to fear transition quirks I'd also be open to try out
others, though.

Best
Urs

> Both Mate and LxQt are available in testing/stretch:
> https://packages.debian.org/testing/lxqt
> https://packages.debian.org/stretch/mate-desktop-environment
>
>
>




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