Re: [OT] Grammatic gender

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2017-11-16 um 14:22 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh <address@hidden>:

> Since this is already well off-topic, I'd like to ask a general question of 
> the German speakers here: the Constitutional Court recently ruled that 
> forcing people born in Germany to identify only as either male or female on 
> official documentation is discriminatory (for a number of reasons, including: 
> some people cannot be biologically categorized as entirely one or the other, 
> some people are mis-assigned, some people don't identify that way, etc.). The 
> court provided two possible remedies: either add a third category (presumably 
> "unspecified"), or strike sex from official documentation entirely. 
> 
> Since German *does* use gendered pronouns, what do you imagine is likely to 
> happen here, as people start entering into adult life with no specified male 
> or female gender? As noted above, referring to biological organisms, much 
> less people, with the neuter pronoun would likely be considered unacceptable. 
> So what do you imagine is likely to happen here? Is the Duden going to start 
> establishing what is effectively a fourth gender category? 

Finally, a good decision, as far as I can tell.
While trans* people often use singular "they" in English, that doesn’t work in 
German, since "sie" is they as well as she and You (polite form). "es" is 
unacceptable, as you noted. I wanted to research anyway how German trans* 
people want to be called, a quick search found:

- xier, dey (http://nonbinarytransgermany.tumblr.com/language)
- sif, sies, xier, nin, sei 
(https://weltenschmiede.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/gastartikel-er-sie-xier-nin-genderneutrale-pronomen/)


Greetlings, Hraban
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Henning Hraban Ramm
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