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Re: Dots wrongly positioned in not merged chords

From: David Wright
Subject: Re: Dots wrongly positioned in not merged chords
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 16:51:11 -0500
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)

On Thu 26 Apr 2018 at 20:54:57 (+0200), address@hidden wrote:
> Yes, this is exactly what I do, even if I did not want to make my
> snippet too complicated by introducing also the piano staff. You
> could of course use four staves, but in real life often two staves
> are used with two voices in each. Often however life is not that
> simple, there are more than four voices: first and second soprano,
> first and second alto etc.

I'm losing count, perhaps because SATB was mentioned. I assume your
example is for SA on one staff, so the suggestion is to expand to
two staves, S and A. More staves than that would only be required
where the rhythms are different between firsts and seconds, or there's
a lot of part-crossing, etc.

> And it is in these cases the shown
> situation arises. Sometimes e.g. second soprano is singing at the
> same pitch as first alto. In order to make reading the notes as
> simple as possible one wants to have their notes separated, and the
> initially described situation arises.

I don't think your layout adds any clarity for the singers, just to
avoid having to look at the stems carefully. And placing the lyrics
(even where identical between parts) will be more involved because
they will lie under only one of the chords, as shown.

> So, why can't I produce a note
> image like this (produced in GIMP, since I do not know how to do it
> in LilyPond)?:

It's often difficult to make LP break conventions because there's a
lot of knowledge built in to the program. I can suggest one method
to achieve the layout you want just by lying about the chords'
simultaneity. As shown, you can make the lie as small as you like
(because the offset is limited by the size of the glyphs) which means
that any MIDI file will sound quite adequate for proofing the music.


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