Re: Large Time Signatures Within Staves?

[Ben]

On 5/18/2018 10:06 AM, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote:

Hi Ben,

I need to create a wind ensemble engraving where the time signatures are large and *within* the staves themselves, overlapping specific instruments/groups throughout the score. I know how to place the time signatures above the staff but I can't find a way to place them within the instruments and groups.

Does anyone know a snippet or function that allows this? Is it fairly easy to implement?

The first variant is very easy to achieve:

\version "2.19.80"

noTimeSig = { \omit TimeSignature }
largeTimeSig = {
  \numericTimeSignature
  \override Staff.TimeSignature.font-size = 9
}

\new StaffGroup <<
  \new Staff \with \noTimeSig {
    d''4
  }
  \new Staff \with \largeTimeSig {
    c''4
  }
  \new Staff \with \noTimeSig {
    d''4
  }
  \new Staff \with \noTimeSig {
    d''4
  }
  \new Staff \with \noTimeSig {
    d''4
  }
  \new Staff \with \largeTimeSig {
    d''4
  }
  \new Staff \with \noTimeSig {
    d''4
  }
>>

The second one is harder because it probably involves dealing with the precise amount of space between to staves - maybe for determining the size, but certainly for the positioning (which should be centered with respect to a group of two or more staves). It's no problem at all to move the time signature downwards, a fixed amount, but this is bound to mess up when inter-staff space varies. Logically, such a time signature should not be belong to a single staff but to a set of successive staves. Maybe one of the Lilypond/Scheme-wizards here will come up with something like that.

Best
Lukas

Thank you!

(attached examples)

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On 5/18/2018 9:25 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote:

Hi Ben,

Since (at least in the first example) the time signatures are centered on a staff, why not just increase the size of the TimeSignature grob, and then \omit (or \hide) it from other staves?

Hope that h

Thanks for that suggestion on the first variant, that's actually easier than I had thought it would be!

Kieren,
That was my first thought but I kept getting duplicate signatures when I was trying it. I'm positive it was user error.
When I increase the grob, how (or can?) I adjust it on the fly for certain pages if the distance between instruments change for layout reasons? Otherwise the grob would look 'off'.

How could I approach that case if possible? Thanks! :)




PS. Sorry about the duplicates, I accidentally hit send before I pngquant'd my attachments. Tried to cancel the send but wasn't fast enough!