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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Mac OS 10.15 Catalina (Tim McNamara)
2. Re: Macro with (David Kastrup)
3. Re: Mac OS 10.15 Catalina (Hans Åberg)
4. Re: Re: Macro with pitches as parameters (Mats Bengtsson)
5. drawing a range reguardless of transposition (Sandro Santilli)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 07:59:26 -0600
From: Tim McNamara <address@hidden>
To: lilypond-user <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.15 Catalina
Message-ID: <address@hidden>
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Frescobaldi itself does not generate sheet music. You need to install Lilypond also. In my experience with Catalina, Hans Aberg's .mkpg installs with a double click and works fine(except for convert-ly, apparently).
Frescobaldi 3 does not work out of the box on the Mac; there are a half a dozen dependencies that have to be installed first. The 64-bit version of 2.20 does work well. I haven't gotten around to getting F3 running as obtaining and installing the dependencies on the Mac is kind of a nuisance due to how locked down MacOS is, unless one is using a package manager such as Homebrew, MacPorts, etc. I am not using one of those.
On Nov 14, 2019, at 3:20 AM, Jeremiah Reilly <address@hidden> wrote:
Carl, thanks for both tips.
The Frescobaldi Downloads page states "Install a copy of Lilypond as well." Not sure how that jives with Catalina.
Sorry to be inept re packages and making from source. I am a musician, not a developer.
Your help much appreciated.
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 4:34 PM Carl Sorensen <address@hidden> wrote:
From: Jeremiah Reilly <address@hidden>
Date: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 3:14 AM
To: <address@hidden>
Subject: Mac OS 10.15 Catalina
What is the status of running Lilypond under Mac os 10.15 Catalina?
Thanks.
(Apologies if the answer is clearly posted on the website or Lilypond blog. I searched 20+ minutes without success. I cannot upgrade to Catalina until I know whether Lilypond will run. I found posting for folks running Lilypond in a virtual machine or Decker, but that's not my bag.)
Search for 64-bit, and you’d find it. But putting a response on a thread with Catalina in a title is probably a good idea.
You can get an installable LilyPond package created by Hans Aberg here:
https://www.et.byu.edu/~sorensen/lilypond-devel-2.19.83_2.mpkg
There is a 64-bit Frescobaldi installer for Version 2.20:
https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/releases/download/v2.20.0/Frescobaldi-2.20.0-x86_64.dmg
HTH,
Carl
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 15:15:00 +0100
From: David Kastrup <address@hidden>
To: David Menéndez Hurtado <address@hidden>
Cc: Aaron Hill <address@hidden>, address@hidden
Subject: Re: Macro with
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David Menéndez Hurtado <address@hidden> writes:
On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 at 12:47, Aaron Hill <address@hidden> wrote:
Secondly, there's a quirk in variable substitution syntax. You need to
use the $var form, so the parser will see the ly:pitch? and ly:duration?
tokens as indicating a single note.
Ah, right. I understand now the manual means with "normal LilyPond input,
using $ (in places where only Lilypond constructs are allowed) or # (to use
it as a Scheme value or music function argument or music inside of music
lists) to reference arguments (eg. ‘#arg1’)." So, every time the input type
is ly:something, it should be with $, right?
Music is ly:music? . # passes the content verbatim and requires a
particular type to work since it is evaluated _after_ being fitted into
the syntax parsing. $ creates a copy of some types (such as music) and
can be treated differently in syntax according to its type but since
some syntax constructs require lookahead (and that in turn requires
knowing the type of the token), the evaluation can happen surprisingly
early.
In general, # works with fewer surprises unless it doesn't work at all.
Thank you so much, now my source is almost readable, and so much
quicker!
--
David Kastrup
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 15:15:49 +0100
From: Hans Åberg <address@hidden>
To: Jeremiah Reilly <address@hidden>
Cc: Carl Sorensen <address@hidden>, "address@hidden"
<address@hidden>
Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.15 Catalina
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After running the LilyPond installer listed at the bottom this page, open the Frescobali app and in Preferences > LilyPond Preferences > “LilyPond versions to use”, set as Default the path
/opt/lilypond/bin/lilypond
On 14 Nov 2019, at 10:19, Jeremiah Reilly <address@hidden> wrote:
Carl, thanks for both tips.
The Frescobaldi Downloads page states "Install a copy of Lilypond as well." Not sure how that jives with Catalina.
Sorry to be inept re packages and making from source. I am a musician, not a developer.
Your help much appreciated.
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 4:34 PM Carl Sorensen <address@hidden> wrote:
From: Jeremiah Reilly <address@hidden>
Date: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 3:14 AM
To: <address@hidden>
Subject: Mac OS 10.15 Catalina
What is the status of running Lilypond under Mac os 10.15 Catalina?
Thanks.
(Apologies if the answer is clearly posted on the website or Lilypond blog. I searched 20+ minutes without success. I cannot upgrade to Catalina until I know whether Lilypond will run. I found posting for folks running Lilypond in a virtual machine or Decker, but that's not my bag.)
Search for 64-bit, and you’d find it. But putting a response on a thread with Catalina in a title is probably a good idea.
You can get an installable LilyPond package created by Hans Aberg here:
https://www.et.byu.edu/~sorensen/lilypond-devel-2.19.83_2.mpkg
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 15:42:50 +0100
From: Mats Bengtsson <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: Re: Macro with pitches as parameters
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On 2019-11-14 12:46, Aaron Hill wrote:
On 2019-11-14 1:02 am, David Menéndez Hurtado wrote:
I am transcribing a piece that is filled with the rhythmic motif "8.
16 8" at different pitches. Being a LaTeX user, I want to write a macro
like \myrithm{c a g}. I found the documentation for Scheme functions,
and how to edit whole music sections, but nothing on how to insert a
fixed number of pitches. As I understand it, ly:music is an arbitrary
music _expression_, so I cannot restrict it to just three pitches.
...
Ooh, you are *so* close!
...
Here's the working version:
%%%%
\version "2.19.83"
myRhythm = #(define-music-function
(first second third)
(ly:pitch? ly:pitch? ly:pitch?)
#{ $first 8. $second 16 $third 8 #})
\fixed c' {
\time 6/8
\myRhythm g d g
\myRhythm e d g
\myRhythm g a b
\myRhythm c' a b
}
%%%%
By coincidence, I encountered the same problem and came up with the same
solution, the other week. I'm surprised that we don't have any such
example in the manual since it really is very useful and at the same
time illustrates the power of combining define-music-function with
embedded LilyPond syntax. In LSR you can actually find a few more
examples that seem relevant, like
http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=346, but as far as I can see, the
same could equally well be implemented like your example above without
requiring any Scheme competence. The only LSR example that resembles the
one above is http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=302, but it doesn't
illustrate the possibility to include multiple pitches in the pattern.
In my own example, the same pitch is repeated multiple times in the
rhythmic/melodic pattern, like
\version "2.19.82"
myPattern = #(define-music-function (p1 p2 p3 p4)
(ly:pitch? ly:pitch? ly:pitch? ly:pitch?)
#{ $p1 4 ( $p2 8 ) \acciaccatura $p2 $p3 $p3 16 $p4 $p3 8 #})
which can be successfully used like
\fixed c' {
\time 6/8
\myPattern a c' b ais |
\myPattern a f' e' dis' |
}
However, it doesn't work in \relative mode, since the octave change is
applied every time the same pitch is repeated. Since I'm used to writing
in \relative mode and since \relative mode is very well suited to this
violin music that spans several octaves but often moves in small
intervals, I would have liked to write the above example using
\relative c'' {
\time 6/8
\myPattern a c b ais |
\myPattern a f' e dis |
}
but since the second pitch of the example is repeated in the pattern,
the second occurrence of f' raises the octave again, which isn't what is
wanted. Searching the mailing list archives and the regression test
examples for 2.19, I finally came up with
\version "2.19.82"
myPattern = #(define-music-function (p1 p2 p3 p4)
(ly:pitch? ly:pitch? ly:pitch? ly:pitch?)
(make-relative (p1 p2 p3 p4) (make-event-chord (list p1 p2 p3
p4))
#{ $p1 4 ( $p2 8 ) \acciaccatura $p2 $p3 $p3 16 $p4 $p3 8 #}))
\relative c'' {
\time 6/8
\myPattern a c b ais |
\myPattern a f' e dis |
}
Adding occasional dynamic indications or articulations could be done
using the standard trick of attaching them to an empty chord at the
suitable location, like
\relative c'' {
\time 6/8
<>\f \myPattern_rel a c b ais |
<<{\myPattern_rel a f' e dis } {s4. <>^\trill }>>
}
(not extremely convenient but still doable.)
My main remaining problem is how to add a reminder accidental or
cautionary accidental on a pitch. Even if it was possible, you might
only want it on the first occurrence of the note so it's more like an
unsolvable problem. Probably the famous edition engraver can do the job,
but I've never taken the effort to learn how to use that beast, so for
the places where I urgently need a reminder accidental in the middle of
the pattern, I will not use the macro.
/Mats
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 17:53:37 +0100
From: Sandro Santilli <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
Subject: drawing a range reguardless of transposition
Message-ID: <20191114165337.GA831@liz>
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In order to determine if I'm writing something that can
be played by an instrument, is there a way to display
on the score the supported range by that instrument ?
I'd like to have something that doesn't change when I
transpose, so to know if transpositions are possible
at all...
--strk;
() Free GIS & Flash consultant/developer
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