Re: Turn with flat above under slur

[Knute Snortum]

Thanks for the explanation.  I'll remember that in the future.

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Knute Snortum


On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 11:44 AM Jean Abou Samra <jean@abou-samra.fr> wrote:
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> Le 05/06/2021 à 15:32, Knute Snortum a écrit :
> > On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 12:24 AM Jean Abou Samra <jean@abou-samra.fr> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 05/06/2021 à 01:44, Knute Snortum a écrit :
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I am trying to engrave a turn with a flat above it, all under a slur.
> >>> I can't seem to get it no matter what I try.  Here is a fairly minimal
> >>> example:
> >>>
> >>> %%%
> >>> \version "2.22.1"
> >>> \language "english"
> >>>
> >>> \relative c'' {
> >>>     \key ef \major
> >>>     \time 12/8
> >>>     \partial 8 bf8( |
> >>>     g'4
> >>>     \once \override TextScript.avoid-slur = #'inside
> >>>     c,8^\turn^\markup { \flat } c'4 g8 bf4. af4 g8) |
> >>> }
> >>> %%%
> >>>
> >>> The turn is inside (below) the slur, but not that flat. It seems like
> >>> the slur is leaving enough room for the flat, but the flat won't go
> >>> below the slur. Any suggestions?
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> When the TextScript has an outside-staff-priority,
> >> its alignment is fixed by other means than avoid-slur.
> >>
> >> \version "2.22.0"
> >> \language "english"
> >>
> >> \relative c'' {
> >>     \key ef \major
> >>     \time 12/8
> >>     \partial 8 bf8( |
> >>     g'4
> >>     \once \override TextScript.avoid-slur = #'inside
> >>     \once \override TextScript.outside-staff-priority = ##f
> >>     c,8^\turn^\markup { \flat } c'4 g8 bf4. af4 g8) |
> >> }
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Jean
> > That's perfect Jean, thanks! I did fool around with
> > outside-staff-priority, but always with a number.  I didn't know it
> > could take a value of false.
> >
> > To the list again, in the Internals Reference for TextScript
> > (https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/internals/textscript)
> > under outside-staff-priority, it says it takes a number but there's no
> > mention of it taking a boolean.  Did I miss something or is this a
> > possible improvement to the manual?
>
> This is in fact not specific to outside-staff-priority:
> all kinds of properties accept '() and #f in addition to
> the values matched by their type predicate. Think
> \override SomeGrob.stencil = ##f (what the \omit shortcut does).
> This is a way to signal that the property has no particular
> value; when the property is not set (such as outside-staff-priority
> for a NoteHead), it is taken to be '(). So, in most cases (there
> can be subtle exceptions), a property can be unset by setting
> it to '(). #f is generally equivalent and often used; there
> is a lot of inconsistency in LilyPond between #f and '()
> that we should probably think about someday.
>
> So, when you set outside-staff-priority to #f, it becomes
> as though the grob does not have any outside-staff-priority
> Then, the functions using that property stop affecting the
> grob in question.
>
> Best,
> Jean