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Re: How to implement a "5-3" fingering (Piano) (LP 2.22)


From: Hans Aikema
Subject: Re: How to implement a "5-3" fingering (Piano) (LP 2.22)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 15:25:51 +0100

Well, would not call it reduntant and unnecessary and certainly not stupid. It 
served purpose to detect that the German version of the documentation needs an 
update at this point, and with the further clarification serves the 
German-speaking part of the community which would likely get redirected to the 
German version of the documentation just like you. 
For those getting redirected to the non-German language versions of the docs 
it's indeed redundant and a bit confusing.

> On 1 Jan 2022, at 11:26, Valentin Petzel <valentin@petzel.at> wrote:
> 
> Hello Hans,
> 
> My bad, this must have been changed recently. Knute Snortum asked the same 
> thing in October, at which point the docs still had the old way. And when I 
> checked the stupid automatic language selector (why the heck do we have 
> this?) 
> of course delegated me to the german documentation which is of course the 
> only 
> one still using the old snippets.
> 
> So my remark becomes stupid, redunant and unnescessary.
> Cheers,
> Valentin
> 
> Am Samstag, 1. Jänner 2022, 11:05:41 CET schrieb Hans Aikema:
>> Valentin,
>> 
>> your remark confuses me.
>> In what way is your suggested syntaxt different from what's in the docs?
>> 
>> \relative {
>>  c''4-1 d-2 f\finger \markup \tied-lyric "4~3" c\finger "2 - 3"
>> }
>> 
>> I only see a few spaces which afaik only icrease readability, but apparently
>> I overlook something.
>> 
>> regards,
>> Hans
>> 
>>>> On 1 Jan 2022, at 10:56, Valentin Petzel <valentin@petzel.at> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Ken, hello David,
>>> 
>>> the way given in the documentation is not particularly good, as this won't
>>> produce a Fingering grob but a TextScript grob, which cannot be
>>> positioned the same way.
>>> 
>>> Much better would be to use
>>> 
>>> e-\finger "5-3"
>>> or
>>> e-\finger\markup\tied-lyric "5~3"
>>> or something.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Valentin
>>> 
>>> 01.01.2022 03:25:13 Kenneth Wolcott <kennethwolcott@gmail.com>:
>>>> HI David;
>>>> 
>>>>  Thank you.  Read right past it, missing it entirely.
>>>> 
>>>> Ken
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 6:03 PM David M. Boothe, CAS
>>>>> <david.boothe50@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/inside-the-staff
>>>>> 
>>>>> The second example under the heading "Fingering Instructions" gives you
>>>>> a couple of options.
>>>>> 
>>>>> dB
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 31, 2021, 8:51 PM Kenneth Wolcott <kennethwolcott@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>>>>>> HI;
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  How to implement a "5-3" fingering (Piano) (LP 2.22)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> See attachment.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have a piece of music arranged for Piano which I am practicing my
>>>>>> Lilypond engraving skills.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The final bar (in the bass clef) is two half notes.  The first half
>>>>>> note has a fingering of "5-3".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  How does one engrave that?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Probably something obvious in the manual that I missed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your awesome assistance!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ken Wolcott



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