Re: [Lynx-dev] Retrying without TLS and other Fun Things

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi Martin,
just as an illustration,  I used lynx  2.8.9.DEV.9
Which is what we have here at shellworld.  Our shell service presently 
runs Ubuntu 16.4...or something like that.
anyway, when I did
lynx duckduckgo.com
I was taken, with no security errors at all to
duckduckgo.com/lite
With the usual hptps and the certificates accepted.
I have no idea what you do there. Still the only time I personally see 
those  tsl errors is when running alpine on the dreamhost shell for my 
office.
I understand fully that running Linux on your own is an entirely different 
animal.  Offering a site that worked in case it helps.
Kare


On Tue, 11 Apr 2017, Martin McCormick wrote:

> Secure sites these days are mor often than not responding with
> some sor of breakdown of the TLS protocol so one gets a "retrying
> without TLS" message and then the wheels come off spectacularly
> for that site.
>
> I am running Debian GNU/Linux 7 and the version of lynx is Lynx Version 
> 2.8.8dev.12 (22 Feb 2012).
> libwww-FM 2.14, SSL-MM 1.4.1, GNUTLS 2.12.20, ncurses 5.9.20110404(wide)
> Built on linux-gnu Nov 23 2016 21:57:17
>
>         Okay, let's try the next version of debian. I have a
> somewhat newer system running debian jessie
>
> Lynx Version 2.8.9dev.1 (12 Mar 2014)
> libwww-FM 2.14, SSL-MM 1.4.1, GNUTLS 3.3.8, ncurses 5.9.20140913(wide)
> Built on linux-gnu Jun  5 2015 11:34:27
>
> On this one, two different secure sites act as if they will load
> but then things sort of vaporize. Here are the messages I
> captured fromDuckDuckgo. I get the same from another secure site
> I go to on the newer lynx only you see the name of that start
> page and then one is back in the lynx_bookmarks page as if
> nothing ever happened. Here is the Duck
> Duckgo fizzle:
>
> Looking up duckduckgo.com
> Making HTTPS connection to duckduckgo.com
> DuckDuckGo
> -more- https://duckduckgo.com/lite
>
> and that's all.
>
>         The older lynx actually works with TLS on DuckDuckgo as
> well as several other sites but more and more sites using https
> links no longer present a page. Lynx tries with no TLS and the
> secure sites rightly refuse to make an insecure connection. The
> newer version of lynx may, for all I know, make the connections
> but if you can't read the page, it isn't much more useful.
>
>         Since I usually don't use lynx on the newer system, I am
> not sure if I have something else configured wrong. I am using
> the command-line to a bash instance on both older and newer
> systems.
>
> Thanks for any constructive suggestions.
>
> Martin McCormick
>
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