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[Pan-users] Re: Pan-users Digest, Vol 70, Issue 10


From: Jay Nitikman
Subject: [Pan-users] Re: Pan-users Digest, Vol 70, Issue 10
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:41:48 -0700
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Walt, Duncan,

That worked! Thanks for your help. I like Pan very much. I use to use getbinnews, another wonderful newsreader that no longer is supported.

Jay


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Today's Topics:

   1. new messages always marked "read" (Jay Nitikman)
   2. Re: new messages always marked "read" (walt)
   3. Re: new messages always marked "read" (Duncan)


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Subject:
[Pan-users] new messages always marked "read"
From:
Jay Nitikman <address@hidden>
Date:
Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:09:42 -0700
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Recently, my NNTP news-provider moved their servers to a new site. Now, whenever I download headers of new messages, they are always all marked "read" before I get a chance to read them. I cannot easily tell read from unread messages.

How can I fix this?

I am running Pan v0.132

Thanks,


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Subject:
[Pan-users] Re: new messages always marked "read"
From:
walt <address@hidden>
Date:
Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:47:42 +0000 (UTC)
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:09:42 -0700, Jay Nitikman wrote:

Recently, my NNTP news-provider moved their servers to a new site.  Now,
whenever I download headers of new messages, they are always all marked
"read" before I get a chance to read them.  I cannot easily tell read
from unread messages...

This happens because each news server assigns its own article numbers to
individual articles.  If you wait long enough the problem will fix itself,
but it might take a long time.

Meanwhile, you can fix it just by deleting the files that reference those
obsolete article numbers, ~/.pan2/newsrc-* and ~/.pan2/newsgroups.xov.

Here is a typical line from one of those files:
gmane.comp.gnome.apps.pan.user: 0-10220

In general, those article numbers (0-10220) will be different for each news
server, so you need to get rid of the old ones because they are now wrong.

After you delete those files pan will need to download the list of newsgroups
from each server you use, but only once.






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Subject:
[Pan-users] Re: new messages always marked "read"
From:
Duncan <address@hidden>
Date:
Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:00:33 +0000 (UTC)
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walt <address@hidden> posted
address@hidden, excerpted below, on  Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:47:42
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:09:42 -0700, Jay Nitikman wrote:

Recently, my NNTP news-provider moved their servers to a new site. Now, whenever I download headers of new messages, they are always all
marked "read" before I get a chance to read them.  I cannot easily tell
read from unread messages...
This happens because each news server assigns its own article numbers to
individual articles.  If you wait long enough the problem will fix
itself, but it might take a long time.

Well stated. I'll only add that when the server per group article sequence numbering changes, either due to server problems or switching servers (either you or your provider, if they didn't take care to maintain numbering), it's often easiest to simply add a new server and delete the old one. That way pan treats it as the new server it is, new numbering, etc, and nothing gets mixed up.

With newer pan (anything 0.90 or newer, so obviously 0.132), you don't even have to resubscribe to newsgroups, since a group subscription now applies to any configured server that carries it. The only problem may be the posting server used, since adding a new server and deleting the old one won't necessarily fix the posting server settings, located in posting profiles. So take a look at them too, changing the posting server as appropriate.



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